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09-17-2007, 12:03 PM
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A Clean House is...a rarity?
Guys: How many chapters are currently using cleaning services to keep their houses clean? (OK, enough of the "French Maid" sidebar comments...)
For members of some chapters, it appears that the threat of being fined for not performing house jobs (sweep/mop floor, throw out garbage, etc.) isn't a big deal. They just whip out the checkbook & pay the fine...while the garbage situation doesn't improve.
As a whole, fraternity houses are always going to be messier than sororities...I think it's a chromosomal thing. But I think it's absurd to have a service paid to keep things tidy. And when you take into account the addition of small, furry creatures who like to chew on said garbage, nothing good can come of it.
Aren't we supposed to be learning to be R-E-S-P-O-N-S-B-L-E men when we take the oaths during Rx? How bloody hard is it to swab the deck once a week (or once a month, if you have a lot of members)?
Discuss...
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09-17-2007, 01:33 PM
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LOL, Bill, I know you have ventured in to many of the houses with your job and it can be an embarresment for sure.
I used to have my Mom and Dad come to the house and no toilet paper in the bath romms, any of them. I was an alum then and was not very happy along with being very embarresed. It still goes on today and I wonder how hard is it to have the bath rooms stocked.
Ot maybe having beer cans in the common areas, (some years ago) and the trash cans over flowing and trash fallen on the floors, with dirty dishes in the sinks.
I used to chide the actives and say is this how you lived at home or how would you feel if your folks stopped by and saw this?
Will it ever change? The house manager is one of the most disliked sub officers there is.
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09-17-2007, 06:07 PM
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Next month a college classmate I haven't seen since 1977 and his wife (whom I've never met) are planning a visit and it has occurred to me that if no one visited, I'd never clean my house. I even bought new furniture and am refinishing other pieces. So maybe that's the answer.
Arrange for some influential people to visit the fraternity house on a regular basis and maybe the guys will spiff the place up. As Tom hinted, parents would be good.
Sooner or later, it may occur to them that it's simply easier to clean as you go, so it always looks presentable. A clean fraternity house is a wonderful sight to behold.
Good luck with that, Boz.
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09-17-2007, 06:35 PM
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I understand what you're saying. I know of at least one house in Florida that uses a maid service. I was shocked when I saw it. We had house duties every week plus a cleaning party before home football games. It was a pain, but it instilled a respect for the house. Paying for cleaning services teaches brothers that there is no consequence for their actions and that throwing money at a problem will fix it.
In today's day and age it is hard to expect brothers to mow the lawn, but cleaning dishes and scrubbing toilets is not too much to ask.
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09-19-2007, 02:44 PM
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Wondering if it is to much to ask them to clean up after themselves?
With the amount of money envolved in our buildings, they need and it is their responsibily to keep it clean.
The money it costs to retro fit it is much higher than when they were built.
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09-19-2007, 11:09 PM
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A maid service!!!
Um, isn't that what pledges are for?????
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09-20-2007, 02:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GammaZeta
A maid service!!!
Um, isn't that what pledges are for?????
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Thats what I'm talking about!!! I mean, isn't that what associates are for???
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