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Old 05-07-2007, 01:47 AM
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Alpha Phi dies of alcohol poisioning at SDSU

I can't find any news stories on it yet, but obviously everyone in the SDSU greek community already knows.

This is just what I heard through the grapevine, <edit>. Her name was Jenny.

Obviously this is very saddening... <edit>

<edit>She was 18.

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Old 05-07-2007, 06:15 AM
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Because the SDSU greek community needs more bad events...

Has her name been publicly released? If not, you don't have any business posting it here.

Your implied accusations towards her sisters are unnecessary and wrong when we don't know ANY of the facts or background.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:52 AM
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I didn't accuse her sisters, I just said I was WONDERING where they were. It just seems like someone, even a random person, would have seen how drunk she was at some point and done something about it. If she was found alone in her dorm room, I could understand, but she was found in a crowded fraternity house.

As for action being taken, she was 18 and it occured at a fraternity house, so I was more or less reffering to that.

I am not sure if her name has been publicly released, but like I said, pretty much everyone knows about it. If you really want me to delete her name, I will, but I don't see what the difference is.
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:34 AM
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Well, if she was 18 (therefore under the legal drinking age) and died in someone's house due to alcohol poisoning...first of all, I'd assume they'd try to track down who provided her with the alcohol to begin with. That person could certainly be charged with a crime.

From there on, what action could be taken would depend on the exact facts/circumstances surrounding the incident. I would say that it doesn't bode well for <EDIT>- generally, an incident like this will have people calling for someone's head.

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Old 05-07-2007, 11:28 AM
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Just so we're clear here, she was at a fraternity house, yet her sisters should have stopped it? Do the sisters live with the fraternity? I don't see the connection, maybe I'm missing something?

Personally, I think her name should be removed from your post. I don't think it's your place to say who it was. Jenny is not a super common name, so my guess is it'd not be too hard to figure out who it was.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:33 AM
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Jenny is not a super common name
How is the #1 or #2 (alternating with Jessica, depending on the year) name of the 80's not supercommon?
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:14 PM
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Jenny is not a super common name, so my guess is it'd not be too hard to figure out who it was.


In the span of less than a minute, I can easily rattle off at least 2 dozen Jennys that I know personally and encounter on a regular basis.

I advise a chapter that has less than 40 members, and there are multiple Jennys in that house.

I'd venture a guess that Jenny (or Jen or Jennifer) is one of the most common names out there.
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:39 PM
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How is the #1 or #2 (alternating with Jessica, depending on the year) name of the 80's not supercommon?
That was my thought.

Ok, there's this article now with a name released and it's not a Jenny
NBC San Diego

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SAN DIEGO -- Police are investigating the death of a San Diego State University student.

Shirley Poliakoff, 19, was found dead Sunday morning in her bedroom. Detectives said her brother discovered her body in her off-campus apartment in the 5500 block of Montezuma Road.

Campus police said Poliakoff came home late Saturday night with friends after attending several social events.

Residents in the area said they are shocked by Poliakoff's death.

"It's surprising that you could be so young," SDSU student Cayla Awalt said. "I feel bad for her brother, who walked in on her. That's horrible."

Medical examiner's Investigators said the cause of death has not been determined, but alcohol may have been a factor.

Foul play is not suspected, police said.
So, were there two deaths or was the OP just wrong?


ETA: And on an unrelated note, at what point will female college students stop being called co-eds? It's a stupid name.
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:44 PM
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That was my thought.

Ok, there's this article now with a name released and it's not a Jenny
NBC San Diego

So, were there two deaths or was the OP just wrong?

ETA: And on an unrelated note, at what point will female college students stop being called co-eds? It's a stupid name.
The Alpha Phi website lists the only "Poliakoff" as Jenny. Maybe Shirley is her legal name, and she goes by Jenny (middle name or something)? Or it could be her biological sister who just joined and hasn't been added yet.
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:53 PM
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The Alpha Phi website lists the only "Poliakoff" as Jenny. Maybe Shirley is her legal name, and she goes by Jenny (middle name or something)? Or it could be her biological sister who just joined and hasn't been added yet.
Or possibly not an Alpha Phi? She could be a sister of Jenny or whatever.

*shrug* I'm not really digging around their website so whatever.

If this was greek related, I'm going to say that SDSU loses their entire Greek system like... tomorrow.
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Old 05-07-2007, 12:53 PM
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The Alpha Phi website lists the only "Poliakoff" as Jenny. Maybe Shirley is her legal name, and she goes by Jenny (middle name or something)? Or it could be her biological sister who just joined and hasn't been added yet.
I'd guess that she goes by Jenny. (Perhaps she was named after a relative or something, and goes by her middle name.) Note - this is just my guess and not a statement of fact in any way shape or form.

Shirley would certainly be a far less common name for a 19 year old girl than Jenny though, that's for sure.

How sad that her brother is the one who found her - it would still be sad for him to lose his sister either way, of course, but to find her in that condition would be awful.
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:34 PM
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Does the victim's name need to be removed at this point? I'm not sure what the status of this story is, is this information available to the general public? Has her family been informed?

If those two things have happened, I don't see what purpose would be served in deleting the name from this thread. If not, it shouldn't be here.

Does anyone know?
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:36 PM
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Does the victim's name need to be removed at this point? I'm not sure what the status of this story is, is this information available to the general public? Has her family been informed?

If those two things have happened, I don't see what purpose would be served in deleting the name from this thread. If not, it shouldn't be here.

Does anyone know?
The story has broken, and the name has been released.
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:38 PM
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The story has broken, and the name has been released.
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Old 05-07-2007, 01:51 PM
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Does the victim's name need to be removed at this point? I'm not sure what the status of this story is, is this information available to the general public? Has her family been informed?

If those two things have happened, I don't see what purpose would be served in deleting the name from this thread. If not, it shouldn't be here.

Does anyone know?
Yeah, it's only on the San Diego news, but it is public information now.
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