Sorors' Have you seen this???

Citrine1 · #1 02-14-2007, 05:32 PM

Apparently this has been all over the internet, but I just now got the memo. Check out this tomfoolery!!!

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dccxhjbc_0jg35cp

Senusret I · #2 02-14-2007, 05:49 PM

I saw this on facebook just today. It's really sad.

I try to educate gay men on this as best I can....there are ways to have a support system and embrace your softer side (for lack of a better phrase) without disrespecting existing institutions.

prettynatural · #3 02-14-2007, 05:51 PM

They can wear the colors and even imitate some styles but they will not ever be a member of my organization. I can't believe they would go out in public like that. That is such a disgrace

ladygreek · #4 02-14-2007, 08:43 PM

They have been around for awhile--the same as Delta Beaux/Gents. I've read that on some campuses they are "pledged" by members of the respective sorority. *shrugs*

Senusret I · #5 02-14-2007, 09:07 PM

I posted this response on facebook:

Let me start by saying that this, indeed, is a mess.

Men claiming to be members of sororities is not a new phenomenon, however, at least not new in 2007. It has been around since at least the 1980s.

Why do gay men do this? I don't know. I am a gay man - openly gay for many years - and I have never had the desire to pledge anything but a fraternity. I always knew that fraternities were for men and sororities were for women. (Later I came to learn about coed fraternities, but that's beside the point.)

I do not know what it is about sororities, sisterhoods, and all things feminine that some gay men find affinity with. But I do acknowledge that some gay men find mutual support and friendship in those entities that I personally do not find comforting: drag shows, vogue balls, and yes, "sororities."

What is most dangerous about these organizations is not the trademark infringement, but the sense of entitlement they feel because they pledged long and hard. Yes, to most of us....

..pledging long and hard for THIS is worse than being a renegade, but at the same time, who do we have to blame for the division in the first place? We indoctrinate in our membership that they are worthless if they didn't sweat, bleed, and cry for our orgs.

To the little credit I intend to give these men, they are emulating what they see us doing.

Now what can you all do about it? Not much. If you are already a homophobe, I strongly suggest that you leave them be and allow more tolerant people to talk sense into them -- better yet, let an actual gay man, a gay greek man (doesn't have to be me) talk to them about finding a better way to express their identity, independent of Alpha Kappa Alpha, DST, and the other orgs they emulate.

Believe that your national offices are handling the trademark aspects....let insiders to the culture handle the other traditions. If you confront them, you will make it worse.

Believe a man in drag is still a man and will fight you as such, lol

pinkies up · #6 02-14-2007, 11:10 PM

I am speechless. Mercy.

DSTCHAOS · #7 02-14-2007, 11:21 PM

Senruset rocks.

I blame the AKA and Delta chapters that allow such tomfoolery to begin in the first place for the existence of these auxilliaries. These men know they are MiAKA and aren't really AKAs. They aren't the same as men who have fake AKA or DST membership certificates and cards. Or, are they?

Weren't MiAKA and Delta Beaux/Gent (

) started as men who had a love for AKA and DST and wanted to help out just like sweethearts help the frats? Weren't many of them men who dated AKAs and Deltas? That's what I was told.

tld221 · #8 02-14-2007, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Senruset rocks.

I blame the AKA and Delta chapters that allow such tomfoolery to begin in the first place for the existence of these auxilliaries. These men know they are MiAKA and aren't really AKAs. They aren't the same as men who have fake AKA or DST membership certificates and cards. Or, are they?

Weren't MiAKA and Delta Beaux/Gent (

) started as men who had a love for AKA and DST and wanted to help out just like sweethearts help the frats? Weren't many of them men who dated AKAs and Deltas? That's what I was told.

that's the story i always heard. but like most things, people always take stuff to the next level and go messing up a good thing.

i mean, to me, they are saying "im a gay man who feels like i would fit better in a sorority than a fraternity because i am (more likely) more comfortable around women. therefore i am willing to emulate femininity and in that, imitate being a soror of AKA/DST. and for that NPHC effect, i will put numbers on a mask and stand in height order so i can say i was on a line. how ya like me now - okkkkkkkkk?"

my point - if being a miAKA was once a positive identity, it may be tarnished because it will become synonymous with "gay dudes who want to be sorority girls."

wouldnt it just be more comfortable to come to terms with your masculinity and say, "ok i am gay and i do think im pretty and i want to be greek, but i'm (biologically) a woman first and since sex (not gender mind you) is the one inflexible, absolute requirement of being a sorority member, then no dice for me? besides, im was a man first and gay second so..."

i dunno, thats me trying to make sense of it.

and rashid is always sick with a response - holla!

starang21 · #9 02-14-2007, 11:57 PM

dang, lol

i knew those pics would be getting out hella fast.

NiaX · #10 02-15-2007, 01:45 AM

I didn't know Katt Williams was an Ace... new day folks! LOL!

But... yo, the shield... I hope Aka's HQ gets in that arse for that! Infringement?

ladygreek · #11 02-15-2007, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Senruset rocks.

I blame the AKA and Delta chapters that allow such tomfoolery to begin in the first place for the existence of these auxilliaries. These men know they are MiAKA and aren't really AKAs. They aren't the same as men who have fake AKA or DST membership certificates and cards. Or, are they?

Weren't MiAKA and Delta Beaux/Gent (

) started as men who had a love for AKA and DST and wanted to help out just like sweethearts help the frats? Weren't many of them men who dated AKAs and Deltas? That's what I was told.

Right on both accounts. It started back in the day when AKAs and Deltas had "sweethearts" and "courts." The guys used to really help us out by making sure fights didn't break out at parties, sorors weren't harrassed, they escorted us to night classes, helped make paddles (FOR GIFTS), etc.

Often they were members of the frats. But somewhere along the line, they started being ridiculed as men wanting to be AKA or DST.

To all: this has been posted in the AKA forum. Maybe we should continue the discussion there.

MaMaBuddha · #12 02-15-2007, 12:46 PM

i think the pictures are ridiculous.

there are gay oriented fraternities that are out there.

i know plenty of Delta Gents and Miaka that are ole school and most were in fraternities and were always around to help out the sororities.

*lol* they do need to be educated. senusret, *lol* at the man in drag

1908Revelations · #13 02-15-2007, 07:15 PM

[quote=DSTCHAOS;1399016]Senruset rocks.

I blame the AKA and Delta chapters that allow such tomfoolery to begin in the first place for the existence of these auxilliaries. These men know they are MiAKA and aren't really AKAs. They aren't the same as men who have fake AKA or DST membership certificates and cards. Or, are they?

I got the e-mail about that crap this morning.....while I was trying to finish my homework (minutes before class)...I was livid!!!!! Eventhough they will never be a part of any SISTERHOOD, not a SHEM-HOOD, they should for over the money.......b/c when I paid my money (eventhough I wanted to) my bank account cried out for help....it had flat lined. But seriously that is just gross.

There are Sorors on that campus, I just wish I knew how those Sorors feel? I wonder do those guys? try to affiliate with the members of the Sorority? Maybe it is my neo-isms, but I just wanna know.

lovelyivy84 · #14 02-15-2007, 07:20 PM

Yeah- I wonder how that works on a campus that has a chapter- I mean I just can't imagine how those Sorors feel. It would cause sooo much more drama than anyone needs in their life, lol.

1908Revelations · #15 02-15-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by lovelyivy84

Yeah- I wonder how that works on a campus that has a chapter- I mean I just can't imagine how those Sorors feel. It would cause sooo much more drama than anyone needs in their life, lol.

<p>I am no gang banger, but if I saw one of those supercalifraglisticexpyalidocious fools carrying around a replica of our crest.......I would want to kisk some @$$<p>