any locals going or trying to go national?

rayray · #1 02-21-2003, 02:46 AM

I was just curious to know if any local orgs. were trying to go national or are in the process of going national and i mean affiliate with a national org.. It has been a goal of ours since we were started 2 1/2 years ago. Last week we were offered assosciate memebership of panhellenic which is the biggest first step since our presentations last spring so we are extrememly excited. Good luck to all going through this process or are trying to.

PotentialPledge · #2 03-16-2003, 04:02 AM

we're trying to go national. We need 3 more members to petition to become apart of TKE.

Dfran · #3 04-15-2003, 10:00 PM

Could someone explain the basic process of going national? If I understand the local concept correctly, a fraternity is local, regardless of how many campuses it is located at, until it is recognized by a national association - NIC, et al. So, what are the hoops that need to be jumped through.

texas*princess · #4 04-15-2003, 11:25 PM

I think if a fratnerity/sorority has more than one chapter, it may be considered "regional".

National can mean you affiliate with an already established inter/national organization, or create your own, which is very hard to do.

FuziCrayon · #5 04-16-2003, 02:23 AM

Hi - I'm in a local sorority in GA and we're going national!!

We have seen three presentations and you can read all about it. I don't know how to set up a link to the page so go to the main greek chat page and go into the RUSH forum... inside that there is a very popular thread called "Nationals coming to my college" and it's all about our situation!

Good luck. PM me if you need to know more!

Kevin · #6 04-16-2003, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by Dfran
Could someone explain the basic process of going national? If I understand the local concept correctly, a fraternity is local, regardless of how many campuses it is located at, until it is recognized by a national association - NIC, et al. So, what are the hoops that need to be jumped through.

Requirments vary between national organizations. Some expansion policies are much more aggressive than others (TKE for example).

So the process totally depends on which organization you are petitioning. I'd recommend that groups check as many organizations as they can -- at a national level NIC groups are all VERY different!

Dfran · #7 04-16-2003, 05:54 PM

Forgive my naiveté. If I understand you correctly, in order for a GLO to become national it must petition the auspices of a GLO that is already national?

Is there a stated reason why this is so? Weren't all of these organizations founded somewhere 'local' and did they not then autonomously migrated to national status based on their having established chapters at more than one university, in more than one region?

What purpose then is served by making a GLO come in under the wing of a national fraternity, if their reach is itself national?

texas*princess · #8 04-16-2003, 06:04 PM

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What purpose then is served by making a GLO come in under the wing of a national fraternity, if their reach is itself national?

I'm not really sure what you mean by this?

There are many benefits to being "taken under the wing" of a national organization. 2 local sororities on my first university have since colonized with national organizations and there are so many benefits that the locals otherwise would not have been able to have. For example there are traveling consultants who can visit the chapters if they are having problems, there is a much larger alumni base nationwide, and so much more. The two groups couldn't be happier right now.

Dfran · #9 04-16-2003, 07:55 PM

Texas, Do they have to change their name?

amycat412 · #10 04-16-2003, 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by Dfran
Texas, Do they have to change their name?

ABSOLUTELY.

IF, say, Xi Omicron at State U becomes a colony of Nat'l Org Kappa Delta, it would then change its name to the XX (chapter designation) of Kappa Delta.

33girl · #11 04-16-2003, 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by Dfran
Forgive my naiveté. If I understand you correctly, in order for a GLO to become national it must petition the auspices of a GLO that is already national?

Is there a stated reason why this is so? Weren't all of these organizations founded somewhere 'local' and did they not then autonomously migrated to national status based on their having established chapters at more than one university, in more than one region?

What purpose then is served by making a GLO come in under the wing of a national fraternity, if their reach is itself national?

To be national you can do one of two things:

-become part of an existing national, which means the local must change their name to that of the national and often things like colors, motto, ritual etc.

-If a local GLO starts from the ground up at University A and opens chapters at Universities B, C, D, E, F etc that follow the same model, it is a national GLO. You don't have to belong to a conference to be national.

Dfran · #12 04-16-2003, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
To be national you can do one of two things:

-become part of an existing national, which means the local must change their name to that of the national and often things like colors, motto, ritual etc.

-If a local GLO starts from the ground up at University A and opens chapters at Universities B, C, D, E, F etc that follow the same model, it is a national GLO. You don't have to belong to a conference to be national.

Thank you for clearing that up! For a second there all the little egalitarian hairs were standing up on the back of my neck. The latter model being the one we hope to follow in ASC. For a fraternity that is bent on changing a couple of things, ASC is not about changing squat when it comes to our business, branding, ritual, etc. A lot of things I've noted while surfing the net make more sense to me now.

Assuming that a local GLO starts from the ground up at the U of A, and opens those chapters you mentioned, they historically have their own letters, correct? Like Tau Chi chapter or something. One thing we had decided early on was to opt for a name - like a Greek reference, for example: ASC, Phalanx Chapter... well, maybe not, that one's rather vulnerable to derison now that I look at it... How about Troy, something like that... Hmmm, there it is again! Maybe we'll scrap that idea! Go with one letter, like Zeta.

Sorry, thinking out loud.

DeltaBetaBaby · #13 04-17-2003, 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by amycat412
ABSOLUTELY.

IF, say, Xi Omicron at State U becomes a colony of Nat'l Org Kappa Delta, it would then change its name to the XX (chapter designation) of Kappa Delta.

As a side note, a lot of groups then take on the old org. name as their chapter name.

EX, AB becomes a chapter of Phi Mu, they may be the AB chapter if that name is not already taken.

texas*princess · #14 04-17-2003, 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by amycat412
ABSOLUTELY.

IF, say, Xi Omicron at State U becomes a colony of Nat'l Org Kappa Delta, it would then change its name to the XX (chapter designation) of Kappa Delta.

Yep this is correct!

When the ladies I knew at my first university were thinking of going national and they met with the nationals that were presenting, they made sure they would be able to teach their 'chapter history' which included being part of a local sorority, so that history wouldn't be lost

trichisorority · #15 04-17-2003, 02:47 PM

my sorority was founded in 1998 and we have been approched a couple times to become a part of the national organization. we continually decline the offers because what makes us original is that we make our own rules. we know, we know, our letters are "XXX" but we are a good group of girls and have gone through A LOT to get where we are today...

so what i'm trying to say is: do what you feel is the most comforatable for you and your organization! don't be pressured...