Is roll call a good idea?

UGAalum94 · #1 12-05-2006, 12:25 AM

I was posting this as a response in the Tippiechick thread, but then it disappeared.

I am not blaming the victim; I don't think it's Tippiechick's fault at all.

It just might be a weakness of GreekChat that we could correct since we now know that sometimes members of your group might use the info to make you uncomfortable or do actual harm.

I know that in my GLO's forum the suggested info is, I think, first name, chapter, and favorite memory, or something like that. Depending on your database, first name and chapter might be enough for someone to find your real life info.

And, if in another thread, you mention that you were at school in around such and such a time or you mention anything that can give away your age, it makes it even easier.

I wouldn't think that it would be normal for someone to go around collecting your data to "out" your personal information in real life, but it seems to be what happened here.

Maybe we should encourage people to protect themselves better under the circumstances.

Tippiechick · #2 12-05-2006, 12:30 AM

I think it boils down to the personal integrity of the sister. People might know your info. But, posting it changes everything.

And, we all know in this case it was just to prove a point.

I will fully admit that I dig around on google. But, if I find personally identifying information, I don't post them. I know the names of a LOT of people. But, I DO NOT use that info to hurt them on here. That crosses a line. Posting things put out there by people is one thing. Getting info from a confidential site is another.

Roll call is a fine idea. It helps keep perps out. But, sisters should have some integrity.

Drolefille · #3 12-05-2006, 12:31 AM

I think it is always upon each individual user to guard their info appropriately. People who don't have some special connection to me might still be able to pin me down. But then they'd also have to know that I have no compunctions about using lethal force even in unnecessary situations. (TAKE THAT STALKERS)

But I don't think our roll call threads are a particular threat to safety. If someone knows that they're being cyber stalked they should definately avoid posting info, but for the rest of us, it's up to the individual. At what point do you just talk about the weather because your age, sex, location, GLO, alma mater, etc. are all off limits.

ETA: this was also an abuse of the ZTA site, not of GC itself..

DSTCHAOS · #4 12-05-2006, 12:32 AM

QUESTION: Is roll call a good idea?

Answer: NO and neither are other things that could be used against people. It's easy to get comfortable on the internet and forget that these boards can be accessed by anyone, including people with bad intentions for whatever reasons.

tunatartare · #5 12-05-2006, 12:34 AM

I see nothing wrong with a roll call because when you post in your sorority's (or fraternity's) roll call thread, you assume that your sisters/brothers aren't going to dig up information on you and use it to stalk you or put it out there on a public site for everyone to access it. Personally, I can think of at least one instance where I pm'd a new member to GC to tell her to edit her post in a roll call thread because it had too much revealing information about her (chapter, year in school, hometown, and university email address in the firstname.lastname@university.edu format).

UGAalum94 · #6 12-05-2006, 12:41 AM

Oh yeah, totally, you don't think anyone will turn out to be crazy; you assume that people in your GLO group will be respectfull, but apparently some people are nuts and some are disrespectful of the lines you want to draw for your own privacy.

We can see a disrespect for privacy here; and there's some suggestion that it's a pattern that existed on GreekChat before this most recent event with Blueangel.

Under those circumstances, maybe we should encourage people to be more cautious, even in roll call. Or point out that they need to make choices: if you post your first name in roll call then you need to be super careful about any other info you give out.

#7 12-05-2006, 01:15 AM

Once again, Alphagamuga decides to start a thread because she wants to cry foul at the fact that I thought she was a perp before greeklawgirl verified her membership. She got pissy at the fact that I called perp on her because she refused to post in the Roll Call thread.

Admit it.

For the record, I figured out your identity without the help of the Roll Call thread. YOU mentioned your first name in a PM. YOU mentioned the time in which you were in school. And oh yeah, your chapter is in your username!

Did I dig up your info in Sister Search to use it against you? Of course not. I'm respectful enough not to do that even thought I think you're a piece of shit. I was merely making sure we didn't have another case of IowaHawkeye/mullet81/kdlady00 on our hands.

But hey, if you want to start this shit up with me again...be my guest. It's only 7:15 PM here.

I'm all for the Roll Call thread. If you don't want to post in it, fine. But just be sure to verify membership if a sister asks for it. If you don't want to reveal that info, be prepared to get shit until you do.

UGAalum94 · #8 12-05-2006, 01:23 AM

This wasn't really about you. It was an observation based on what seemed to be going on here.

I think sometimes people make decisions based on assuming good behavior on the part of other people. If we know that some folks aren't going to follow the good behavior, maybe we shouldn't suggest that new people disclose additional information.

At the time, I registered, I had no idea that I needed to be concerned about guarding my privacy so carefully. I've since learned that I probably should have been more careful.

It might be a good idea to spread the word so people could maybe learn based on the experience of others.

#9 12-05-2006, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

This wasn't really about you.

Really? Considering the shit you pulled in the AGD forum the other week, I don't believe you. At all.

You might as well say, "See? That's why I didn't want to post in the AGD Roll Call thread because psychos like OTW's gonna find my info in Sister Search and then post it on GC for everybody to know who I am!"

I know that's what you REALLY meant.

UGAalum94 · #10 12-05-2006, 01:55 AM

It's not what I meant, and I sent you a pm to explain.
Do you ever accept an apology because I think I've expressed my regret about that post?

#11 12-05-2006, 01:56 AM

Please refrain from sending me PMs in the future.

Your last two were promptly deleted before even being read.

Thank you and have a nice evening.

UGAalum94 · #12 12-05-2006, 02:00 AM

Sure enough. You too.

UGAalum94 · #13 12-05-2006, 02:09 AM

Jen, what makes it different than basic online safety is the sister's online web databases.

I could be wrong, and if I am, please don't prove it to me by posting my information, but I think it would be harder for the average person to put it all together, especially if you went to a big school.

But when you narrow things down to a searchable group database, it gets a lot easier.

epchick · #14 12-05-2006, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

I could be wrong, and if I am, please don't prove it to me by posting my information

WOW....just wow! That's really wrong that you'd think that she'd try and prove a point by posting your information!!

ZTAngel · #15 12-05-2006, 08:41 AM

I don't think anyone could have ever thought that another sister would use information that was supposed to be for sister's only and post it on a public message board. That's the last thing on someone's mind when they post information in a roll call thread. Now everyone will have to be more careful after the recent incident.