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Old 10-06-2001, 10:02 AM
Katey Alpha Gam Katey Alpha Gam is offline
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Historical connections to other orgs?

Hey all
-I was wondering if anyone had a historical connection with another org? AGD is of course part of the Syracuse Three, along with Alpha Phi and Gamma Phi Beta. But we also have a really cool connection with TKE. One of our founders, Emily Helen Butterfield, was one of the first female archetects but also an expert in Heraldry. She not only designed our new member pin and our coat of arms AND our Alpha house....BUT...she also designed TKE's coat of arms as well!! There are even some simalarities between the 2 coats of arms!! So TKE's whenever you see your coat of arms, think of the AGD that designed it for you!!

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Old 10-06-2001, 10:18 AM
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Zeta has a connection with Alpha Sigma Alpha, Kappa Delta, and Sigma Sigma Sigma because they were all founded at Longwood College.
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Old 10-06-2001, 11:08 AM
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Pi Phi and Kappa have a connection because they were both founded at Monmouth College in Illinois (1867, 1870). At many campuses, we celebrate at Monmouth Duo parties because of that!
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Old 10-06-2001, 12:10 PM
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Plus being one of the Farmville Four, ASA also had Ida Shaw Martin (aka Sarah Ida Shaw), who was one of Tri-Delta's founders, as its national prez for a while. That is a very very long story and happened while we were still an educational sorority. If it wouldn't have been for her guidance, ASA would have died out shortly after its inception.
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Old 10-06-2001, 12:12 PM
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Many fraternities, including Delta Tau Delta were founded, at least in part, by Masons -- and many of our Rituals were influenced by Masonry.

Although not my fraternity, Phi Delta Theta, Sigma Chi and Beta Theta Pi are known as the Miami Triad, having been founded at Miami of Ohio.
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Old 10-06-2001, 12:55 PM
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Smile A Phi Delta Theta man helped out Delta Gamma!

After Delta Gamma was established with some chapters, a Phi Delta Theta (George Banta) was made DG's only male initiate and had the power to establish DG chapters in good standing.
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Old 10-06-2001, 03:21 PM
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I happen to know that 5 of Delta Tau Delta's 13 founders were Beta's, but after Delt was founded the five Betas resigned their membership saying it was far better to be just a member of Beta Theta Pi than a founder of Delta Tau Delta. (this is something that I continually mention to my friends in Delt )
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Old 10-06-2001, 03:26 PM
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Geoff,

Wow, I never knew that. Very cool.

One other fact that a Kappa Alpha Theta Alum(VT) told me is that a Beta helped found KAT(the first greek lettered organization for women). Other than that I do not know of any one sorority that we have a connection with. Historically speaking that is. I do know that Delta Zeta was founded on the same campus as we were. Miami of Ohio University in Oxford, Ohio.



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Old 10-06-2001, 05:22 PM
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Dear Beta person,

I'm curious as to where that story comes from.

Sounds like the stuff of legends to me. And legends tend to change with time.

However, I have looked at both web pages and niether the history of Beta Theta Pi or of Delt mention anything about this.

I do know, however, that at one time the Alpha Chapter of Delta Tau Delta was at Ohio Wesleyan University in Delaware. (before the Central Office and Arch Chapter were formed, the chapter that headquartered the fraternity was designated Alpha -- so we've had several of them) The original Alpha Chapter was at Bethany College in Virginia -- now West Virginia. I believe, although I'm not sure, that Delt was the first fraternity on the Bethany campus.

At one point, the Delts at Ohio Wesleyan became disillusioned and left Delta Tau Delta. To quote from Delt history:

"What really happened at Ohio Wesleyan to our Alpha Chapter was pretty well reconstructed afterward by those involved (now Betas, you'll recall). The plot was hatched by eight members of the chapter. They led the others, about four or five in number, into believing that disbanding the chapter was a great sacrifice for the benefit of the campus as a whole. After the last meeting of the chapter, the eight members took the furniture and fixtures to Columbus and sold them, appropriating the money for their own use. The chapter's treasury, which was in effect the national treasury of the Fraternity, disappeared also. Then the eight plotters returned to Delware and were initiated into Beta Theta Pi, which had been a rather week chapter. It is unclear just what was gained by the action, although the Beta Chapter was greatly strengthened by our former members. The Delaware chapter was founded in 1866 as Omicron, became the Alpha in 1869, defected in 1874, and was reestablished as Mu in 1879. Mu chapter prospered almost from the start, and the defection did not hurt it noticeably. The Beta Theta Pi chapter, on the other hand, went into a decline after the defectors graduated, returning to its former status."

My suspicion is that your information is an unintended distortion of that event. Even the numbers you quote seem to match.

By the way, I've computed the interest on the money your fraternity stole from us and am looking forward to receiving your check for $9,875.321.56. Compound interest is a wonderful thing. You may round it off and make your check for $9,875,000.

Just kidding. You can keep the money. We don't need it.

You may now go visit your Delt friends and allow them to help you remove your foot from your mouth.

Have a nice day.
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Old 10-06-2001, 05:33 PM
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Phi Delta Theta/Delta Zeta Connection

Although not a brother fraternity, Delta Zeta has a unique bond with Phi Delta Theta in that one of the brothers, Dr. Guy Potter Benton, is our sorority's Grand Patron. Dr. Benton made the decision, when he was President of Miami University of Ohio, to allow women to matriculate and he provided much guidance, inspiration and advice to our six founders.

He even helped keep our Ritual a secret when a Beta brother stole a copy out of the hands of our secretary and Dr. Benton (if I recall from my pledge handbook) pursued the villain and won back the document "not by his sprinting ability but by virtue of his official position"
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Old 10-07-2001, 12:21 AM
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Re: Phi Delta Theta/Delta Zeta Connection

Very interesting Tracy LOL


QUOTE]Originally posted by KillarneyRose
[B]Although not a brother fraternity, Delta Zeta has a unique bond with Phi Delta Theta in that one of the brothers, Dr. Guy Potter Benton, is our sorority's Grand Patron. Dr. Benton made the decision, when he was President of Miami University of Ohio, to allow women to matriculate and he provided much guidance, inspiration and advice to our six founders.

He even helped keep our Ritual a secret when a Beta brother stole a copy out of the hands of our secretary and Dr. Benton (if I recall from my pledge handbook) pursued the villain and won back the document "not by his sprinting ability but by virtue of his official position"

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Old 10-07-2001, 12:46 AM
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One of the founders of Delta Chi was a DU. That is the only connection I know of.
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Old 10-07-2001, 10:48 AM
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One of PDT National Pres. ( a very long time ago ), was instrumental in combining a group of Local Fraterntiys into Theta Kappa Nu, Which eventually merged with Lambda Chi Alpha. I was never initiated as a member of either but very instrumental in the building of a major International Fraternity!
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Old 10-07-2001, 04:28 PM
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Yup!

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Pi Phi and Kappa have a connection because they were both founded at Monmouth College in Illinois (1867, 1870). At many campuses, we celebrate at Monmouth Duo parties because of that!

Yeah that's we do! For a week we have secret buddies in the other organization, and then at the end of the week we have a dinner together.

Also, locally we have a connection to Delta Tau Delta. Last night I was reading through my old local pledge manual, and I discovered that the IN Gamma founders met at the Delta house when they decided to create Pi Phi!
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Old 10-07-2001, 11:16 PM
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The founders of ZTA solicited the help of a couple of brothers (biological, that is). Our first president's older brother was a KA at William & Mary. He helped write some of our rituals and design our badge. Our badge and KA's badge have a lot of similarities.
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