I Don't Understand....

Senusret I · #1 08-29-2003, 01:16 PM

I have noticed that there can't be multiple threads on the same topic in the NPHC threads....yet, when the same topic pops up on Chit Chat, there is predominately NPC/NIC representation, but very little NPHC representation.

I guess I don't understand why there can't be mulitple threads in general, and why there seems to be so little NPHC participation in Chit-Chat.

kddani · #2 08-29-2003, 02:34 PM

Everyone's welcome in chit chat

It seems that a lot of the NPHC groups have very established and strong communities in their respective forums and may prefer to have discussions among their sisters and brothers. None of the NPC or NIC groups really have as strong of a forum.

justamom · #3 08-29-2003, 04:07 PM

kddani-what a great explanation! PLUS, they have some of the best topics! I too wish we had more exchange.

CrimsonTide4 · #4 08-29-2003, 04:28 PM

I cannot speak for all NPHC forums on GC, but no one is prohibited from posting in DST. We just ask that you respect, abide by the guidelines that we have established for our forum.

AKA_Monet · #5 08-29-2003, 05:41 PM

I post on all the forums...

Sometimes folks on GC Chit Chat can relate, other times, some folks in the NPHC cannot relate on other threads.

But all in all, most folks are pretty open IMHO...

Wonderful1908 · #6 08-29-2003, 06:31 PM

This is the first time I have ever posted on chit-chat and I have been on greekchat for three years!!!!! This is really a trip because I wsa just telling my class today about culture and how "groups" have a tendency (on purpose or not) to "flock" to their own groups or familiar areas. This is a perfect example, all this time on greekchat and I never have come over here! I would love to doa survey on subtle behaviors people practice without even knowing it.

WhirlwindTNX · #7 08-29-2003, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Wonderful1908
This is the first time I have ever posted on chit-chat and I have been on greekchat for three years!!!!! This is really a trip because I wsa just telling my class today about culture and how "groups" have a tendency (on purpose or not) to "flock" to their own groups or familiar areas. This is a perfect example, all this time on greekchat and I never have come over here! I would love to doa survey on subtle behaviors people practice without even knowing it.

I must say that I can relate more to the NPHC topics than on here. There's only so much talk about rush that I can take.

James · #8 08-29-2003, 08:12 PM

Looking back at early chit chat posts . . . It seems that NPHC members used to post a lot more in chit chat. I wonder what changed?

decadence · #9 08-29-2003, 11:02 PM

James, as someone who has read some of the early Greek Life posts too (I've read the large part of the Greek Life and other general forums when I first came on) I'm aware there was a large(r) NPHC representation there too, in the past. Perhaps more so than NPC/NIC even. Threads tended to often get 'heated' from those that I read, particularly between those from different sectors of the Greek community; over time the body of active posters seemed to switch from predominantly slightly higher NPHC to more NPC/NIC too. It is a visible trend but I couldn't say why? Obviously it (heated-ness) had nothing to do with the fact NPHC members (I keep using NPHC as if they were the only HBGLO's but it's a shorter acronym so forgive the usage

) posted there in greater number I think either it just "was" or it's the fact that it's difficult to judge tone from type onscreen and so misunderstandings ensued, perhaps a meeting of cultures factor too, but I couldn't say. Perhaps also as ChitChat and Greek Life was once all one forum this made a difference too.

"I guess I don't understand why there can't be mulitple threads in general": I would guess this is due to a feeling of people perceiving it as counter productive to have disparate threads about the same thing concurrently. It's easy too, to talk about a topic in a thread "specially for it" :-), if a thread gets especially long a new one is helpful (the aim-chat threads are a good example). But multiple threads like the livejournal ones in the chitchat thread can be confusing. That said, any attempt to start locking the least active duplicate thread for example only causes lots of hassle for the moderators; as happened on Greek Life a few months back when there were a lot of similar threads swimming around. To ramble further, often people don't know if there's been a thread on something before, any search feature can only search so well. Multiple threads can have their place, if only to shed new light on something - it can help to have a new thread as there might be a tendency to think an old buried-for-some-time thread has been 'done to death'.

Personally, I have browsed some of the NPHC forums occasionally; there is a much much greater level of discussion in just one NPHC forum compared to a whole handful of org. specific NPC/NIC forums (which often aren't used). I find the NPHC forums I looked at seemed to act as Chapter Ops, Greek Life, and ChitChat; in one successful blend

. Another thing one notices is a greater religious emphasis within some of the posts than I encounter elsewhere on GreekChat. I have zero intention of commenting on that and that statement shouldn't be construed as any analysis; I just mention it as something I notice when I read them.
I also find in the more ChitChat-esque threads in the NPHC forums (which are HBGLO groups of course) that the threads (eg. funny things your mother used to say to you as a kid) have a strong cultural/ethnic element which might be frankly lost on some. Also, as societal issues within the black community e.g. the statistics of 'black' men within relationships with 'white' women might crop up in chit-chat-esque forums there, there is perhaps a feeling that the topic might be less 'understood' on other forums - which are NPC/NIC_etc oriented?

"and why there seems to be so little NPHC participation in Chit-Chat."... Senusret I, naturally it'd be extremely gauche of me to comment on "why this is", much further - as a non-NPHC person. So, I'll give a few guesses which'll be either way off base or startlingly accurate

Either way I make the points in the course of amiable debate. Speaking just for myself I'd like to see more NPHC participation on GC as a whole - primarily because I don't study on a big greek campus, so a lot of greeks I 'meet' are through GC. Unless I go to specific forums, this means there's a whole rich base of perspectives and experiences which I don't get to see so much on ChitChat, Greek Life, Chapter Ops, etc etc. A shame. And without doubt my loss. I find a few exceptions to NPHC participation of course (I mean there are some NPHC brothers and sisters who make regular appearances in the GC General Forums). It may be because a micro-ChitChat is already in existence elsewhere, it may be because some of the things which come up in that forum require a certain understanding of cultural issues to be able to comment on which one is more likely to find among brothers and sisters of NPHC orgs. I think I had something really insightful to say next about your 'NPHC participation in Chit-Chat point' but ... I've forgotten what that was. :-)

ImDaChamp · #10 08-29-2003, 11:26 PM

did not read

decadence · #11 08-29-2003, 11:36 PM

do not care

ImDaChamp · #12 08-29-2003, 11:39 PM

i read that one...

nice post.

Munchkin03 · #13 08-29-2003, 11:41 PM

I've noticed that the threads on the AKA and DST boards are often a lot "deeper" than what's going on here in Chit-Chat. There are only so many times you can discuss wearing Lilly Pulitzer, The Southern Belle Handbook, and whatever the Grapist is doing. I don't know if this is because the average age of AKA and DST GC members is a bit older than the Chit-Chatters (most, if all, are alumnae, right?), but sometimes the conversation on that is a little more...intelligent.
A lot of it is also geared towards certain concerns of the AA community, which interests me a hell of a lot more than some of the stuff that goes on in CC.

But maybe that's just me.

justamom · #14 08-30-2003, 09:52 AM

decadence-Unless I go to specific forums, this means there's a whole rich base of perspectives and experiences which I don't get to see so much on ChitChat, Greek Life, Chapter Ops, etc etc. A shame. And without doubt my loss.

So true for us all.

Munchkin03- I've noticed that the threads on the AKA and DST boards are often a lot "deeper" than what's going on here in Chit-Chat.

I agree. Seems like CC can't take too much diversity, some threads have a way of getting so out of control and then locked. More restraint and respect seems to be applied in, for example, AKA or DST. This allows for better discussion. HOWEVER, I qualify this by stating I don't lurk TOO often so maybe I don't see it.

Too many flame wars erupting and not enough thoughtful consideration of another's point of view in the general forums.
Lot's of grudges here...

sigmagrrl · #15 08-30-2003, 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by justamom
decadence-Unless I go to specific forums, this means there's a whole rich base of perspectives and experiences which I don't get to see so much on ChitChat, Greek Life, Chapter Ops, etc etc. A shame. And without doubt my loss.

So true for us all.

Munchkin03- I've noticed that the threads on the AKA and DST boards are often a lot "deeper" than what's going on here in Chit-Chat.

I agree. Seems like CC can't take too much diversity, some threads have a way of getting so out of control and then locked. More restraint and respect seems to be applied in, for example, AKA or DST. This allows for better discussion. HOWEVER, I qualify this by stating I don't lurk TOO often so maybe I don't see it.

Too many flame wars erupting and not enough thoughtful consideration of another's point of view in the general forums.
Lot's of grudges here...

I second that, justamom....

Why can't we DISCUSS things without things getting so out of hand? Also, at the slightest sign of "uncomfortableness", someone wants the thread locked!

It seems as if things dissolve into name calling and "Go take a class" or personal attacks...