Are you for, against, or in between?

D.E.M.4's · #1 05-18-2001, 01:48 PM

This is a highly sensitive subject and if it gets to be too much then I will delete it.

How do you feel about abortions. I feel that up until the first 4 weeks the woman should have the right to abort. However I think after that the child has a right to live. What do you think? Are you totally against it, or are you totally for it, or do you have a solution that you think no one else has come up with?

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Chi_ZETABBW · #2 05-18-2001, 05:20 PM

I totally believe it's a woman's choice. No if's and's or but's about it!
But in saying that I would hope they wouldn't use it as a form of birth control.
I personally know people who have had 3 abortions, proably would have had more, but their health insurance only allows for 3 to be covered.
I would never have one, but if I was raped, then I would I'm sure.

ZetaAce · #3 05-18-2001, 05:48 PM

I'm pro-choice. I Would never have one, but hey, what women do with their bodies is their own choice.

You know someone who's had 3 Abortions? How about using a condom next time instead?

It's people who use it as birth control that tick me off.

ZetaAce

Classy_Diva5 · #4 05-18-2001, 06:33 PM

I too am pro-choice, because women have personal reasons for not wanting to bear children.

I don't like our

"president", because he is trying to take this right away from us as women. Who is he to tell a WOMAN that she cannot make her own decisions?

I just wish that healthcare were affordable for all women, because when contraceptives are not accessible to a woman, pregnancy is bound to happen as well as other health problems.

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NubianBlue · #5 05-21-2001, 01:30 PM

Sorors-
I firmly believe in a woman's GOD-GIVEN right to choose. Personally, I would hope to never be put in a situation where an abortion would be necessary. But, there are many women who need that option. The only thing making abortion ILLEGAL would do would be to return us to the pre-Roe vs. Wade days. In those days, so many women sterilized themselves or even died in back-alleys giving themselves unsafe abortions. We can't go there again.
What amazes me to no end is fervor of some of these pro-lifers who will kill for the rights of a fetus, but will stand by and allow children to languish in orphanages or be abused or worse in foster care. (Note: There are great foster care parents, don't get me wrong.) How about fighting for those children who are already here?
Can you tell I feel very strongly about this topic?

DST Love · #6 05-21-2001, 03:09 PM

I am pro-life. I'm not real sure how I feel about the rape issue and I know that it would be hard to have a baby by a rapist but is the child's potential life any less meaningful? I don't like to hear that people have their reasons for not wanting to bear children. Then either do not have sex(because we all know what some possibilities of having sex are), get "fixed" or give the baby to someone who would love it and cherish it as it should be. As soon as the life is created, it is just that, life. Who is to say at what point life is worth anything. I believe that being able to help give life is the most wonderful gift God could give us. I do not have children yet but if I were to have one before I want to, then that is the consequence of my action and more importantly it is also my responsiblity. Life is about dealing with the consequences of our own actions be it good, bad, or otherwise. Outside of rape, the choice comes before you lay down to have sex.

I sincerely do not want to offend nor argue but I just wanted to post my opinion.

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loviest95 · #7 05-21-2001, 04:00 PM

Though I am pro-life..
i would never take away women's choice.. you can not make laws that govern conscience.. In fact I know a young lady that caused her own miscarrige (she has great knowledge of alternative medications and herbs etc.)
Would her case be considered an abortion?

DST Love · #8 05-21-2001, 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by loviest95:
Though I am pro-life..
i would never take away women's choice.. you can not make laws that govern conscience.. In fact I know a young lady that caused her own miscarrige (she has great knowledge of alternative medications and herbs etc.)
Would her case be considered an abortion?

While I guess it could be considered murder, I somewhat agree with you, loviest95. While I'm pro-life, I'm not yet sold on the idea that the government should have a say so. I believe this may be more of an issue of one's morals, religion, beliefs, or conscience.

SableCherub · #9 06-02-2001, 09:54 AM

i am for a womans right to choose...regardless of her choice...i don't feel that it is my or anyone elses place to take that from her...BUT i personally am against abortion...i feel there are too many other alternatives prior to and after pregnancy and that too many women are taking the "easy" way out and making abortion a form of birth control...in a way that may be contradictory...but i do not advocate taking away anyones right to pursue a legal option...

daruler · #10 06-02-2001, 08:02 PM

Well I haven't posted on gc for quite some time, but I had to pipe in on this issue since i feel so strongly about it. I am absolutely, totally, 100% against abortion. As was already stated, a woman has the right to choose...the right to choose whether or not to have sex and be responsible, that is. I do not feel that I, or any other woman, has the right to dictate whether or not they will keep a baby. Now this is based on my religious beliefs, so if you are not a Chrisitin, I wouldn't necessarily hold you to the same principles. But as a Chrisitian, i know that God grants people the PRIVILEGE of taking care of his children while they reside on Earth as mothers and fathers. But they are still God's children, and I would never want to risk the wrath of God for ending the life of one of his children. I am neither judging or condemning people who are pro-choice, I'm simply stating my personal beliefs and I feel very strongly about them.

In addition, I am against abortion because I feel it is detrimental to the Black race. I wish I had the figures, but I know that Black woman get abortions at alarmlingly high rates. i feel like it is self inflicted cultural genocide. It's true that many black people live in poverty and having an abundance of children won't help, but I mean come on! Even college educated, established Black women are aborting black children. It has to stop.

****Retreating back to my hole******

CrimsonTide4 · #11 06-03-2001, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by NubianBlue:
Sorors-
What amazes me to no end is fervor of some of these pro-lifers who will kill for the rights of a fetus, but will stand by and allow children to languish in orphanages or be abused or worse in foster care. (Note: There are great foster care parents, don't get me wrong.) How about fighting for those children who are already here?
Can you tell I feel very strongly about this topic?

I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments. I have actually never looked at these points you bought up as far as the pro-lifers who only care about the fetus but not the actual baby/child.

I am PRO-CHOICE because everyone has choices they need to make in their life. I know I have made messed up choices in my life. I believe that the women who have abortions made a choice and for that choice, they will have to be held accountable by God. I also believe that the extremist Pro-Lifers (those who demonstrate and have gotten out of hand with demonstrating) will also be held accountable to God.

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MIDWESTDIVA · #12 06-03-2001, 05:55 PM

I am pro-choice.

D.E.M.4's,

How did you come up with a four week time limit for abortions?

SableCherub · #13 06-04-2001, 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by daruler:
Well I haven't posted on gc for quite some time, but I had to pipe in on this issue since i feel so strongly about it. I am absolutely, totally, 100% against abortion. As was already stated, a woman has the right to choose...the right to choose whether or not to have sex and be responsible, that is. I do not feel that I, or any other woman, has the right to dictate whether or not they will keep a baby. Now this is based on my religious beliefs, so if you are not a Chrisitin, I wouldn't necessarily hold you to the same principles. But as a Chrisitian, i know that God grants people the PRIVILEGE of taking care of his children while they reside on Earth as mothers and fathers. But they are still God's children, and I would never want to risk the wrath of God for ending the life of one of his children. I am neither judging or condemning people who are pro-choice, I'm simply stating my personal beliefs and I feel very strongly about them.

In addition, I am against abortion because I feel it is detrimental to the Black race. I wish I had the figures, but I know that Black woman get abortions at alarmlingly high rates. i feel like it is self inflicted cultural genocide. It's true that many black people live in poverty and having an abundance of children won't help, but I mean come on! Even college educated, established Black women are aborting black children. It has to stop.

****Retreating back to my hole******

i consider myself of the christian faith...and i am pro-CHOICE...does that mean i am not truly a christian?

DST Love · #14 06-04-2001, 10:11 AM

I'm honestly wondering from everyone who says they are pro-choice, isn't it a choice of whether or not to have sex? I mean, like I've said, is it a surprise if one gets pregnant from safe or unsafe sex? I think we all know what the possibilities of sex are. So I'm honestly wondering what you think about the choice being to have sex or not and then to be responsible for the consequences of your actions (or choices). Also, I'm wondering at what point do you all feel life begins?

SableCherub · #15 06-04-2001, 10:30 AM

i am pro-choice...and for me it is not that simple...choosing to have sex or not...i have chosen to abstain from sex for an indefinite period of time so as not to "wreck" my future endeavors because they would be greatly inhibited by my getting pregnant before i marry...not everyone chooses to abstain...and for those that do not...i fully advocate their right to pursue a legal option...i am not an advocate in any way shape or form of denying anyone their LEGAL rights for any reason...therefore i am pro-choice...not pro-abortion...there is a big difference in my opinion...being "responsible" for ones choices and actions in my opinion means making choices that suit YOUR life based on YOUR beliefs and principles and how YOU feel that choice will impact YOU spiritually, physically, mentally, socially, economically, etc...not how SOMEONE ELSE feels it will affect YOU...only YOU know...i PERSONALLY believe that life begins at conception and I would feel a sense of spiritual and emotional loss beyond the physical loss if i ever had an abortion...those are MY beliefs and i will NOT impose those beliefs on anyone else...if someone asks my opinion i will gladly tell them that i feel they are making a mistake in terminating their child because there are many other options including prevention of a second and third child after the first...and it does not mean the end of ones life...only that all decisions from here on out involve someone else and they are for the next 18 years at least, your number one priority...but again, with all that said...i will NOT take away another womans right to choose nor will i make her feel guilty for HER choice...it is not my place to JUDGE...only GODS...i have my philosophy, but i am NOT the supreme authoritor...i can only give my opinion based in my beliefs, convictions, faith, experience...and allow others to freely make choices on their own...for those that want to use christian principles and spirituality as a basis for abortion being wrong...there are a multitude of OTHER things that go on in the christian church that are just as harmful if not more harmful to the community than abortion and i find it really odd than one will so quickly break out the stance of christian principles and hide behind a bible on this issue and turn around and belittle, degrade, humiliate, their fellow brothers and sisters and even cause their death...think nothing of it...and not once have a concern for upholding christian principles in other instances or on other major issues...

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