Old School Drama

[NUPE4LIFE]

I feel your pain! But I have a different type of gripe. And before I start, no offense to the Blue & White Family. I have a problem when some members of the the Fam make a mockery of other Greek relationships. For instance the Phirst Phamily or Coleman Love. Like in the Nupe forum. I'd paste it here but I haven't figured out how to do that here yet. Well a young man wanted to know why we we don't have a sister organization. He was doing research on all the other Greeks. I eplained to him that we are own entity and that we don't have an official sister organization. Although I did mention the Indiana Love. Then a neo of your organization posted a reply that maybe I took the wrong way. Afterall, you can't tell tone that easily with the printed word. But I found her comments rather negative. She said and I quote, "In your research you should have found that Zeta Phi Beta Sigma is the only brother/sister bond". Excuse me for the paraphrase. And she went on to say how the other orgs just hang tight. I know of other Greek relationships sooo tight that being official or not doesn't make a difference. I respect your relationship with the Sigmas and all that represents. I'm not making likely of it and I know many of your sorors that don't try and make light of other Greek relationships. Just like your soror in the post I know that there are other sorors who have no problems with other Greeks. That was just my opinion. I love all Greeks. A piece of paper doesn't dictate how you show love to one another. I know of blood sibling that don't get along. Take care ladies and I welcome all kriticism. YO-Z!

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KAPPA ALPHA PSI FRATERNITY, INC.
SPR 97
XI LAMBDA

[Fashionista1920]

Nupe, you gotta understand that every org. has something that they take pride in...so of course we're gonna throw that fact up whenever possible. When I do it, which is not often, I do it jokingly. Not saying I take the bond as a Joke, but I never say it to be venomous (remember what i said about click wars...). AND ABSOLUTELY NO DISRESPECT TO MY SOROR, but of course if it was a neo, she's gonna put the ZPBS love out there cuz it's fresh in her mind! That is something special and heavily instilled into new members' minds. When that bond is in action...*whew* it's a powerful thang!

But like you said, some folks hang tight without the benefit of a constitution...that's all that matters then, right?

Which brings me to something ELSE...

You mentioned Indiana love...I know chat rooms aren't real life, but I have noticed more often than not that when a Rho intro's themselves to a Kappa, they hardly reply (I also have yet to see the Indiana Love in person). But when a K-Sweet enters the room, they give them the utmost respect and attention. Whattup wit dat?

POINT OF INFORMATION: this is not something i lose sleep over, i.e. it's just an observation, not a real concern of mine. AND this is not me hatin on aux. orgs., cuz i was/am a member of one.

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I look DAMN good in red, but I prefer BLUE...Z-PHI!

[NUPE4LIFE]

What's up Fashionista? No offense taken in your response. You've made some valid points in all of your arguments. I totally understand that after you cross, you have so much love and pride for your respective organization. OK, I get it. I'm also thinking back to when I first cross and how I let the world know of my new affiliation and brotherhood. But to end this I must say, I don't show love for K-Sweets. It's not out of disrespect. It's just that my organization does not officially recognize those women. The only women we recognize Silouette, the wives of Kappa men. My opinion is that we as organization don't need any help in our cause. We are perfectly capable of taking care of business, as I know all NPHC orgs. are. No disrespect to sweethearts of any organization. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

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KAPPA ALPHA PSI FRATERNITY, INC.
SPR 97
XI LAMBDA

[SapphireSensation]

Peace & Blessings
Fashionista...I posted a reply to this earlier but I don't know what happened to it..
In any event..Just set Soror straight with as much finesse and respect as possible.
My thing is this...I have a major problem with people who step out of line with me and I don't hesitate to put them back...but, I do it with finesse and the touch of a Finerwoman.
That's all you have to do...ask/tell her that you have friends in other organizations and she doesn't have to understand it but she needs to respect it, as your Soror.
End of story.....
PS-My best friend is a member of Delta Sigma Theta...THE ONE AND ONLY...BKLYNDELTA.
I hope that my response helps...I find that when you take the time to pull someone over, in a Sisterly manner and present your case well, it is well received.

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SapphireSensation
RoyalBlueDivaDivine
The Epitome of Finerwomanhood.....

[Finer Woman10-A-91]

I went back to the Kappa board and read the post that my Soror wrote....and this is how I replied:

I don't believe my Soror said what she said to be offensive. However, what she stated is true in the spirit of the question asked. I know MORE Kappas, Omegas, and Alphas who will ADAMANTLY state they DO NOT HAVE A SISTER ORGANIZATION.

I honestly don't see what your problem is here. Its better that this "interest" know the truth than to walk up to a member of your organization ad tell him I know you are the brother organization to XYK organization.

Always in Greek Love,

Originally posted by NUPE4LIFE:
I have a problem when some members of the the Fam make a mockery of other Greek relationships. For instance the Phirst Phamily or Coleman Love. Like in the Nupe forum. I'd paste it here but I haven't figured out how to do that here yet. Well a young man wanted to know why we we don't have a sister organization. He was doing research on all the other Greeks. I explained to him that we are own entity and that we don't have an official sister organization.

As a matter of fact I hear so many combinations of "brother/sister" relations I am confused as to what to believe.

20 Pearls love?
Pyramid love?
Crimson & Cream Love?
Phirst Phamily?


Soooooo much love...don't take offense.
But the TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREEEEEE!!!!!!

There is Now and FOREVER
ONLY 1 TRUE FAMILY...and that is the
Royal Blue and Pure White Family.


I AM NOT A NEO...I HAVE BEEN A ZETA FOR 9+ years thank you for your kind attention.

Nupe4Life...it's all good Kappas are OKAY with me


[This message has been edited by Finer Woman10-A-91 (edited August 02, 2000).]

[Fashionista1920]

Hey Ehr'body! I was just wondering if any of y'all have had drama with "old head" members, whether it be personally, or on a grad chapter/undergrad chapter level. I was just wondering 'cuz I was just thinking about how I LOVE the idea of TRUE Greek Unity (i.e. my soror with the Delta best friend) and how a member of my chapter's sponsoring grad chapter would often take pot shots at me because i have very good AKA and Delta friends. She would imply that I was probably telling them family business and things like that. Once Deltas on my campus had 2 or 3 of the very same functions that we had planned, only they them a week before we were supposed to, so of course she assumed that I must be telling them stuff. Those friends were friends BEFORE we joined our respective orgs. The last thing I want to discuss w/ my social friends is BIZ, espedially Zeta Biz...I know better.

She has some kind of "School Daze" animosity towards Deltas and tries to make me feel bad because of what org. my friends belong to.

What can I say? I'm just not into "click wars"...ya know?

okay...discuss :0)

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I look DAMN good in red, but I prefer BLUE...Z-PHI!

[ZetaAce]

One thing I find amazing is that the same people who get 'annoyed' (and I am not directing this to you Nupe4Life, I'm just saying in general) at the way ZPBS always displays our bond DON'T get annoyed at the way APhiA and Alpha always say 'We Were First'. I'll be honest with you, it doesn't bother me at all, they were the first black collegiate organizations and if they want to shout it from the roof tops, then hey that's great! However, there's a double standard there, if you see what I'm saying. Don't get annoyed with one group for proudly displaying their attributes on a regular basis if you aren't going to get annoyed with the other!

As far as the other organizations bonds go, I recognize that they have history together and I think that is great too! But those bonds do vary from region to region a lot! Heck, I didn't even know about Pyramid Love until someone mentioned it on this board!

ZetaAce

[mccoyred]

Greetings Ladies of the Rhoyal Blue and Pure White! OOOOOOP-ZEEE!!

This is the first time I have checked out your space. I see the love you have for your org and respect it. My closest cousin is a Zeta so I know how my sorors feel about their Zeta friends.

I had to respond to this topic because there are so many variations on brother/sister org relationships. I thought about a few. Many in the following list are real but some others could also exist. In fact, they might but not to my personal knowledge.

Coleman Love Deltas and Omegas
Crimson and Crème Love Deltas and Kappas
Pyramid Love Deltas and Alphas

Phirst Phamily AKA and Alphas
Pretty Boyz and
Pretty Girlz AKA and Kappas
P&G AKA and Omegas

Indiana Love SGRho and Kappas
Dog Pound SGRho and Omegas

All of this is superficial because we all know that there are only two constitutionally bound orgs.


Greek Love


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mccoyred

Dynamic
Salient
Temperate

[PrettyKitty]

Originally posted by mccoyred:

Coleman Love Deltas and Omegas
Crimson and Crème Love Deltas and Kappas
Pyramid Love Deltas and Alphas

Phirst Phamily AKA and Alphas
Pretty Boyz and
Pretty Girlz AKA and Kappas
P&G AKA and Omegas

Indiana Love SGRho and Kappas
Dog Pound SGRho and Omegas

All of this is superficial because we all know that there are only two constitutionally bound orgs.


Greek Love

Dog Pound and Pyramid Love?

Wow...Interesting....you learn something new everyday....



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The Epitome of Beauty, Style, and Grace, Always Exemplifying Good Taste, A Zeta Woman, A Finer Woman, That's Me!

[Shelacious]

Thank you Sister Soror Mccoy Red. You have hipped me to some relationships of which I was unaware. I remember when my chapter had a "Dog Chase the Cats" party with some of our favorite fraterity members, the Omegas. Oh, we never thought we'd hear the end of it from all sides!

You know I feel you implicitly, Soror ZetaAce. I have been a Zeta for several years, and have never gotten combative when my best friend (an AKA) says to me "we're the first and the finest" (well, the latter I may have issue with . It's basically true, and I have no desire to dispute it at face value. However, whenever Zetas and Sigmas point out one of OUR key differentiators, some people are quick to mention "I've seen Zetas and Sigmas who hate each other" or "I've seen Kappas and Deltas who are tighter on the yard than Zetas and Sigmas," . That's not the point we're trying to make. The point is that we are the only constitutionally bound fraternity and sorority in the NPHC.

Zeta's were also the first to charter a chapter in Liberia, Africa. No one gets uptight when we say that, nor when we mention that we were the first to create adult and youth auxiliaries, among other "firsts". However, it only seems to be the brother-sister issue that gets folks down right testy. It's really unfortunate, because it causes folks on all sides to overreact on an issue that really shouldn't be open to debate anymore than the fact that Delta is the largest organization for black women, for example, or that Sigma Gamma Rho was founded by 7 school teachers. Our constitutionality is simply a "fact of the matter", without requiring an assigning of any "value" (whether it is "tighter" than XYZ's) to it at all.

-shela



[This message has been edited by Shelacious (edited October 09, 2000).]