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Old 06-09-2004, 01:10 PM
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Is Fox less biased than any other news source?

Perhaps there is an actual study out and Rudey knows the answer. Does anyone else know?

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Old 06-09-2004, 01:24 PM
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Re: Is Fox less biased than any other news source?

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Perhaps there is an actual study out and Rudey knows the answer. Does anyone else know?

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If there was a study done, who might have done it?
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Old 06-09-2004, 01:24 PM
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This article was by Robert Barro. He is a really smart Economist at Harvard and tha author of my macroeconomics text we used in college (our professor was cited in there several times so we suspect collaboration on textbook profits).

The study finds that Fox is definitely biased and conservatively biased. More importantly, however, it finds that is is less biased than many other liberal media outlets. To read more and see how your favorite publications and programs measure up, you can read the original Businessweek article at: Businessweek.com or you can search the web for reprints of it (here is one )

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Old 06-09-2004, 01:29 PM
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This article was by Robert Barro. He is a really smart Economist at Harvard and tha author of my macroeconomics text we used in college (our professor was cited in there several times so we suspect collaboration on textbook profits).

The study finds that Fox is definitely biased and conservatively biased. More importantly, however, it finds that is is less biased than many other liberal media outlets. To read more and see how your favorite publications and programs measure up, you can read the original Businessweek article at: Businessweek.com or you can search the web for reprints of it (here is one )

-Rudey
Interesting read. The study really focuses on just one aspect -- and I'm not too sure how reliable that aspect is as an indicator. If I were going to attack the study, that's where I'd do it. However, the results sounded about right. Based on what I know about the various organizations listed in the study, the results seemed to be just about dead-on.
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Old 06-10-2004, 09:52 AM
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:07 AM
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Fox news is HORRIBLE!
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:08 AM
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If I understand the methodology of this, it seems to me that when the "standard" that all of these organizations are judged by is the US Congress -- which at this point at least is already "right" of center, that the outcome is going to favor "conservative" organizations who will have an advantage (at least in perception) since that standard is already several points in their direction.

On the other hand, I don't know how you really define where the "center" is.

I wonder if the author is himself on the conservative side?

As the old line goes, "Figures lie and liars figure."
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Can we just say that all news broadcasters are biased in some way. It's simply being human. But Fox is inaccurate and getting a little too trendy for my blood. That's why I don't like them.
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:13 AM
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Can we just say that all news broadcasters are biased in some way. It's simply being human. But Fox is inaccurate and getting a little too trendy for my blood. That's why I don't like them.
Do you not read??

The study analysed news sources for their bias. What was your point on saying all new sources are biased? Of course. Thanks for stating the obvious. The study measured how much. A little inaccurate? A little trendy?? Yeah OK.

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Old 06-10-2004, 10:14 AM
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If I understand the methodology of this, it seems to me that when the "standard" that all of these organizations are judged by is the US Congress -- which at this point at least is already "right" of center, that the outcome is going to favor "conservative" organizations who will have an advantage (at least in perception) since that standard is already several points in their direction.

On the other hand, I don't know how you really define where the "center" is.

I wonder if the author is himself on the conservative side?

As the old line goes, "Figures lie and liars figure."
Actually you don't understand the methodology. The study isn't about who is in Congress right now.

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Old 06-10-2004, 10:22 AM
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If I understand the methodology of this, it seems to me that when the "standard" that all of these organizations are judged by is the US Congress -- which at this point at least is already "right" of center, that the outcome is going to favor "conservative" organizations who will have an advantage (at least in perception) since that standard is already several points in their direction.

On the other hand, I don't know how you really define where the "center" is.

I wonder if the author is himself on the conservative side?

As the old line goes, "Figures lie and liars figure."
They're slightly right of center. I think the article put them at a 39 -- but Ted Kennedy for example based on his record is an 80.

Business Week is kind of like the Conservative answer to Time Magazine. I do think that Fox has gone of the deep end when it comes to covering completely innane things -- like the damned Laci Peterson trial -- I mean seriously, WHO CARES?

I do enjoy watching a few of their shows though.

I think there is a better way to measure bias than what they chose though. Look at what stations and newspapers cover and then consider where they put it in their publications/shows. For example, the NYT has run that Abu Graib stuff on the page for the last 20-something days. That might get them liberal points.

If you've ever watched a CNN package on gay marriage, you'll note that about 75% of the story tells the story of how happy certain gay people are while there is 25% (usually at the end after the story has already made every attempt to establish this as something positive in peoples' minds) where some conservative is decrying the decay of society -- they usually drive to the nearest Christian church, get a clergyman and just go with whatever. I've seen Fox do the same thing on conservative issues.
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:25 AM
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I'm glad you have chosen to define what are conservative topics and liberal topics.

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They're slightly right of center. I think the article put them at a 39 -- but Ted Kennedy for example based on his record is an 80.

Business Week is kind of like the Conservative answer to Time Magazine. I do think that Fox has gone of the deep end when it comes to covering completely innane things -- like the damned Laci Peterson trial -- I mean seriously, WHO CARES?

I do enjoy watching a few of their shows though.

I think there is a better way to measure bias than what they chose though. Look at what stations and newspapers cover and then consider where they put it in their publications/shows. For example, the NYT has run that Abu Graib stuff on the page for the last 20-something days. That might get them liberal points.

If you've ever watched a CNN package on gay marriage, you'll note that about 75% of the story tells the story of how happy certain gay people are while there is 25% (usually at the end after the story has already made every attempt to establish this as something positive in peoples' minds) where some conservative is decrying the decay of society -- they usually drive to the nearest Christian church, get a clergyman and just go with whatever. I've seen Fox do the same thing on conservative issues.
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Old 06-10-2004, 10:33 AM
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Do you not read??

The study analysed news sources for their bias. What was your point on saying all new sources are biased? Of course. Thanks for stating the obvious. The study measured how much. A little inaccurate? A little trendy?? Yeah OK.

-Rudey
Well, if you're gonna get nasty then, yes, Fox news is heavily biased since it's loaded down with white (93%) conservative (65%) Republican (89%) men (91%).
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