Racisim within the African American Community

[phillyinterest6]

Hello Good Brothers(not in the fraternal sense but the cultural sense )

I have a problem (hmmmmm) and need to get a solution to why BLACK people act the way they do. I come from a normal (at least i thought i did) until i got to college!! I couldnt believe the drama i got for being MIXED. My father is italian and my mother is black and irish. For some reason BLACK people didnt like the fact that on my father's side it's not uncommon for the men to marry women who are..well white. What is the big deal about marrying a white women and why do the children of mixed race deal with so much flack. They call me "bougie", "stuck -up" "too good" and all kinds of things. I never thought of myself as being better, but it's other who believe this. whats the big deal about marrying a white women.

[ladygreek]

My good brother (in the cultural sense),

For me the issue is not about marrying White women, but it is about the motives behind marrying White women. They are not always just about "love."

But I am sure PHAShriner will answer your question in depth.

[CutiePie2000]

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[Jill1228]

OY! I am sure he will

Originally posted by ladygreek
But I am sure PHAShriner will answer your question in depth.

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally posted by ladygreek

But I am sure PHAShriner will answer your question in depth.

LOLOLOL

I'm sometimes called "bougie", "stuck-up" "too good" and all kinds of things like that and I am not "mixed".

[PHAShriner/1906]

Hotep Brothers. Mr. Philly, you have posed a very all too common question w/regards to your ancestoral makeup. This is a very complex yet rather simple subject matter. For starters please obtain Frances Cress Welsing's "The Isis Papers" and examine her finding and view of the BLACK GENE and its dominance. You will be able to grasp part of the answer through Welsing's work, but you must go deeper and conduct empirical research and thought provoking analysis whereas you will come to terms w/the importance of tackling Psychophisiological Historical Synthesis and you will surely begin to awaken to the FACT that due to the BLACKMAN'S GENETIC MAKEUP and GREATNESS there exists an underlying FACT, that his GREATNESS is in QUALITY not QUANTITY! One can have fair skin yet be w/more VISION than a SELL-OUT who is as dark as TAYE DIGGS. Catch my drift? You dig where I am coming from? Your GENETIC composition by virtue of you having a BLACK MAN in your GENETIC TREE is cause for you to rejoice and smile. Your stating of having irish genetic composition is really no big deal. The "luck of the irish" is pale in comparison and is of NO MATCH to the "POWER of the AFRIKAN!" Stay tuned. more to follow.

[Professor]

I agree with your point - what are the motives and yes, you knew my frat was going to take it there - lol

Originally posted by ladygreek
My good brother (in the cultural sense),

For me the issue is not about marrying White women, but it is about the motives behind marrying White women. They are not always just about "love."

But I am sure PHAShriner will answer your question in depth.

[darling1]

any motives that anyone has regarding judging someone because of their cultural background, race ethnicity etc has to do with issues of self. you must be pretty low in character to want to denegrate a person because of who their parents are.

phashriner makes a great point in that you need to keep up with your history. there is so much informationout there discussing our culture and where this awful behavior comes from that you want have the time or energy to engage someone who's mad because they think you have the market cornered on easy living simply because your momma was white and you have'good hair'.

we've got bigger issues to worry about. so tell those haters philly interest to slap some conk in their hair and keep in moving .

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by darling1
and you have'good hair'.

we've got bigger issues to worry about. so tell those haters philly interest to slap some conk in their hair and keep in moving .

The original poster made no mention of his hair texture.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
The original poster made no mention of his hair texture.

*insert lightbulb icon here*

But I think Darling1 was also referencing my post about motives. Unfortunately, I have heard too many Black folx say I want my children to have "good hair" or light skin, therefore I want to marry accordingly. I even had my own mother complain that one of my high school bfs was, too dark and she did not want her grandchildren to be that color. Dang, it was highschool, we weren't even that serious.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by ladygreek
*insert lightbulb icon here*

But I think Darling1 was also referencing my post about motives. Ubfortunately, I have heard too many Black folx say I want my children to have "good hair" or light skin, therefore I want to marry accordingly. I even had my own mother complain that one of my high school bfs was, too dark and she did not want her grandchildren to be that color. Dang, it was highschool, we weren't even that serious.

Gotcha. He or she could also be referencing his or her experiences.

But, he or she seemed to assume the original poster had a certain grain of her enough to tell the "haters" to put some conk in their hair.

The funniest thing is that black/white does not necessarily equate to lighter skin and a certain hair texture. People who forget this have forgotten the relative "strength" of black genes and that race mixing is not a simple matter of "yellow+blue=green."

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Gotcha. He or she could also be referencing his or her experiences.

But, he or she seemed to assume the original poster had a certain grain of her enough to tell the "haters" to put some conk in their hair.

The funniest thing is that black/white does not necessarily equate to lighter skin and a certain hair texture. People who forget this have forgotten the relative "strength" of black genes and that race mixing is not a simple matter of "yellow+blue=green."

So true.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally posted by phillyinterest6
Hello Good Brothers(not in the fraternal sense but the cultural sense )

I have a problem (hmmmmm) and need to get a solution to why BLACK people act the way they do. I come from a normal (at least i thought i did) until i got to college!! I couldnt believe the drama i got for being MIXED. My father is italian and my mother is black and irish. For some reason BLACK people didnt like the fact that on my father's side it's not uncommon for the men to marry women who are..well white. What is the big deal about marrying a white women and why do the children of mixed race deal with so much flack. They call me "bougie", "stuck -up" "too good" and all kinds of things. I never thought of myself as being better, but it's other who believe this. whats the big deal about marrying a white women.

Sweetheart, it is all in the difference of "mental slavery" of the Afrikan mind...

The difference between the "house" and the "field" negro...

The difference between "desire" of what is the quintessence of "beauty" and what is considered down right "f-ugly"...

As others have mentioned, you need to do your research on the topic.

As a start, rent the video, "Feast of All Saints" as a jump off point, then go into more detail...

As you meander through these travels, if you can get to the transcendence of watching "Sankofa", then the Universe might speak to you and evolve your wisdom accordingly...

Stay blessed.

[darling1]

i was commenting from a general standpoint. hair texture/grain is another stereotype associated with your complexion. my comment about conking has to do with my belief and experience that those who are darker toned have self-esteem issues. on some level they want to be lighter and have the 'good hair'. it was my attempt to be slightly lighthearted.

btw i am a woman.

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Gotcha. He or she could also be referencing his or her experiences.

But, he or she seemed to assume the original poster had a certain grain of her enough to tell the "haters" to put some conk in their hair.

The funniest thing is that black/white does not necessarily equate to lighter skin and a certain hair texture. People who forget this have forgotten the relative "strength" of black genes and that race mixing is not a simple matter of "yellow+blue=green."

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by darling1
i was commenting from a general standpoint. hair texture/grain is another stereotype associated with your complexion. my comment about conking has to do with my belief and experience that those who are darker toned have self-esteem issues. on some level they want to be lighter and have the 'good hair'. it was my attempt to be slightly lighthearted.

btw i am a woman.

Gotcha.

Your attempt at lightheartedness really does nothing more than feed into stereotypes and colorism nonsense. People of all shades of blackness have self-esteem issues. All of us were ridiculed by whites. Lighter skinned blacks were simply told that we were more acceptable and more beautiful than are our darker skinned brothers and sisters. Lightskinned and darkskinned blacks actually believed this nonsense and it became ingrained in our mindset and socialization. THIS is why we have colorism within our community. THIS is why darker skinned blacks sometimes pick on lighter skinned blacks and vice versa.


Thank GOD that I was not raised in a color struck and hair texture conscious family. My family loves its diversity of hues and hair and you will NEVER hear us talking about who is whatever complexion and who has whatever type of hair. We are all beautiful...period.