Court TV, Thurs. 10 p.m.: The Horrors of Hazing

hoosier · #1 02-26-2005, 10:29 PM

* Teens today are willing to risk serious injury and even death to be accepted by the "right" clique. Evidence: fraternity and sorority hazing incidents led to the deaths of 20 college students in the past five years.

Al Roker explores this dangerous trend in his documentary, "The Horrors of Hazing."

Airing 10 p.m. Thursday on Court TV, it examines cultural, psychological and legal aspects of hazing through interviews with investigators as well as members of groups that practice these rituals -- and family members of victims.

(Yes, I'm sure that weatherman Al Roker, seen weekly on the Food Channel eating BBQ and homecooking, presents the definitive hazing investigation.)

SmartBlondeGPhB · #2 02-27-2005, 12:34 AM

I don't want to be callous but 20 deaths in 5 years, out of ALL the college students in the country in those 5 years, is really not very many........

I bet more committed suicide during that same period.

mmcat · #3 02-27-2005, 01:02 AM

sweeps period is just about over with.
so let the cheap stuff go.
let the easy stories go...

hoosier · #4 02-27-2005, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by SmartBlondeGPhB
I don't want to be callous but 20 deaths in 5 years, out of ALL the college students in the country in those 5 years, is really not very many........

I bet more committed suicide during that same period.

I saw that the deaths in traffic accidents EACH YEAR is like 1400 to 1700 college students.

33girl · #5 02-27-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by hoosier
(Yes, I'm sure that weatherman Al Roker, seen weekly on the Food Channel eating BBQ and homecooking, presents the definitive hazing investigation.)

I thought he officially changed his name to Al Trying To @$#% Up My Super Expensive Bypass Surgery On A Daily Basis Roker.

hoosier · #6 03-02-2005, 06:41 PM

Alfred U. hazing on Court TV special
By JOHN ANDERSON
Wellsville Daily reporter
ALFRED | Court TV will air a special on hazing Thursday night featuring the 2002 death of Alfred University student Benjamin Klein.
Klein was found dead behind his Zeta Beta Tau fraternity house and the post office in Alfred on Main Street. Klein, 21, was allegedly beaten by two of his fraternity brothers and was discovered missing the next day.
Television personality Al Roker will explore the dangerous trend in the Court TV documentary "Al Roker Investigates: The Horrors of Hazing."

The program examines the cultural, psychological and legal aspects of hazing through interviews with investigators, current and former members of groups that practice these rituals, and family members of victims.
The show will air at 10 p.m. Thursday and Roker is expected to talk about the show that morning on NBC's "Today Show."
The Horrors of Hazing focuses on Klein, who was a member in good standing of the ZBT fraternity.
Klein's body was found severely beaten the morning after Tapping Night, when fraternities choose their new members. An investigation revealed Klein had been beaten by his fraternity brothers, as punishment for revealing secrets about their hazing rituals at a college conference in Syracuse just days before. The death was ruled accidental or suicide, but the incident led Alfred to shut down the university's fraternity system.
The case was originally looked at as a homicide.

PhiPsiRuss · #7 03-02-2005, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by SmartBlondeGPhB
I don't want to be callous but 20 deaths in 5 years, out of ALL the college students in the country in those 5 years, is really not very many........

I bet more committed suicide during that same period.

More probably committed suicide last semester, than the amount of hazing deaths over the last 20 years.

hoosier · #8 03-02-2005, 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by hoosier

The Horrors of Hazing focuses on Klein, who was a member in good standing of the ZBT fraternity.
Klein's body was found severely beaten the morning after Tapping Night, when fraternities choose their new members. An investigation revealed Klein had been beaten by his fraternity brothers, as punishment for revealing secrets about their hazing rituals at a college conference in Syracuse just days before. The death was ruled accidental or suicide, but the incident led Alfred to shut down the university's fraternity system.
The case was originally looked at as a homicide.

Really, this is not a hazing death. Klein was a member, not a pledge. I wonder if Al, the Super Reporter, will mention that.

MikeBFiji · #9 03-02-2005, 11:55 PM

I don't condone hazing at all, but 20 deaths in five years isn't that many. I'm sure many more college student die of binge drinking than hazing. I'm happy to say our chapter doesn't haze, in fact the only hazing I was ever victim of was as a freshmen football player in high school. It really pisses me off that the media has to be so negative about everything.

DeltAlum · #10 03-03-2005, 12:49 AM

Any death caused by an illegal act is one too many. Hazing is illegal.

GeorgiaGirl · #11 03-03-2005, 12:54 AM

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Any death caused by an illegal act is one too many. Hazing is illegal.

I completely agree. Yes, 20 deaths may not sound like many, but that's 20 people that would still be alive if the hazing had not occured.

AGDee · #12 03-04-2005, 12:12 AM

I'm watching this.. it's pretty awful. To top it off, our favorite author <heavy sarcasm> is interviewed. (Yes, I'm talking about Alexandra Robbins).

They keep referring to hazing as "ritual", which always makes me ill. They are focusing on a local sorority at Loyola called Tri Phi.

TxAPhi · #13 03-04-2005, 12:19 AM

I am watching it too. Wow.....

Here is the background on Tri-Phi:

http://www.stophazing.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000325.html

Styx vows to eradicate Tri-Phi
http://maroon.loyno.edu/news/2003/03...i-401728.shtml

TRI PHI SUIT SAYS ADMINISTRATORS VIOLATED HANDBOOK
http://maroon.loyno.edu/news/2004/04...k-670341.shtml

33girl · #14 03-04-2005, 12:32 AM

I flipped over to this and the first thing I see is Al Roker with his pudgebelly in all its glory. And where are they going? To the Uni-Mart, home of after bar nachos. So I'm rolling on the damn floor.

We've talked about that Tri-Phi deal before on here, and basically the college doesn't have a leg to stand on, or wouldn't if they were public. They can kick students out for picking their nose if they want cause they're a private college.

PsychTau2 · #15 03-04-2005, 12:49 AM

So if they can't be dealt with as individual students (those who are Loyola students) violating a school hazing policy, shouldn't they be charged with legal charges?

This whole thing about it being "games" and "girlish fun" is a bunch of crap. Don't gangs play the same types of games?

I'm really sick of hearing hazing excuses. Really really sick of it.

PsychTau