Alcohol Restrictions for U. of Idaho Delta Sigma Phi

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Two alcohol-related deaths at the U. of Idaho have led to restrictions and certain requirements being place on the Delta Sigma Phi chapter there, according to a story in the Casper, Wyoming paper (excerpt below). An increase in alumni supervision / involvement will be required.


University imposes alcohol restrictions on fraternity

MOSCOW, Idaho (AP) - The Delta Sigma Phi fraternity house at the University of Idaho will be restricted from having alcohol on its property until 2006 because of the motorcycle deaths of two students earlier this year.

Members of the chapter must also participate in alcohol education programs and sponsor a campus-wide program on how alcohol abuse can influence campus social culture, Dean of Students Bruce Pitman said.

An alumni group will be charged with making sure the fraternity lives up to its obligations.

''There hasn't been much alumni supervision of this chapter in the last year or two,'' Pitman said.

Tests showed that Jason Yearout, 20, of Boise, had a blood-alcohol content of 0.16 in the early morning hours of Sept. 19, when he ran his motorcycle into a low wall. The accident pitched Yearout and his passenger, Jack Shannon, 19, also of Boise, off the bike - killing both.

Criminal or civil charges may still be brought against the fraternity or individual members for possible involvement in fostering underage drinking.

Most of the alcohol was consumed at a party off campus that was not sponsored by the fraternity, Pitman said. But there was some fraternity involvement at another off-campus party where members had gathered to watch a pay-per-view boxing match. Some fraternity members apparently took a collection to buy alcohol, Pitman said.

A student alcohol task force has been organized to discuss campus social culture and possible strategies to curb irresponsible drinking. Pitman said the group has been meeting weekly. . . .

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http://www.casperstartribune.net/apd...wire_num=82376

[DeltAlum]

This is scary. Criminal or Civil charges because of an off campus party not sponsored by the chapter -- but there was fraternity involvement.

Is this going a little too far?

Or did I miss something?

[hoosier]

We need lawyers.

If fifteen guys from XYZ dorm, or the track team, drink at somebody's apt., would they be treated similarly?

We need lawyers to state our right to be treated equally.

[DeltAlum]

You know, I suspect if it were the track team they might be treated the same. (Maybe not the football team). But there really is no "organization" to a dorm.

Unless, of course, you floor section decides to have a kegger.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
You know, I suspect if it were the track team they might be treated the same. (Maybe not the football team). But there really is no "organization" to a dorm.

Unless, of course, you floor section decides to have a kegger.

I have heard this from our national officers. We were told that if several of us threw an off campus party, then it would be considered a fraternity party. I don't understand it unless it's common sense though. It isn't easily spelled out with 5 members of a GLO there and it's a fraternity party. But it should be of concern if a house is dry and they decide to throw an unofficial party. I'm sure some legal person can come up with a good compromise.

-Rudey

[Tom Earp]

See Rudey, you can make sense.

I agree with you!

If I have a party and invite some, not all of my Brothers over as it is an older Active gathering then why is it considered an Fraternity Party?

It shouldnt be, but with Risk Management, we are all under the microscope.

Sucks Dont It!???

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, but I think We as Greeks Brought it upon our selfs!

[DeltaSigStan]

Our Nationals believe an event where more than 3 brothers are present is a Delta Sig event....

Don't look at me, our Nationals has done several things in the past couple years that just make me think these people popped out of the womb and were initiated at age 45.

[Tex1899]

To my knowledge, the Fraternity has no such policy stating that X members at any one event constitutes it to be a Fraternity function.

Are you sure the comment made wasn't "it can be considered a fraternity function..." ...it's similar to "is" but not quite the same.

Remember, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and acts like a duck, it probably is a duck. If there are 50 people at a party and 40 are of the same fraternity, then a jury will probably say that yes, that is indeed a fraternity event. If there are 4 members at a 50-person party, then a jury probably won't say that it's a fraternity function.

[DeltaSigStan]

Originally posted by Tex1899
Remember, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and acts like a duck, it probably is a duck.

ugh that sentence was so Doug Case it's gross.......

Well, we've been told numerous times by numerous ppl from Taggart that 3 members is a Delta Sig event, and that rule is reinforced by SDSU's Greek Office.

[TSteven]

I've really never understood these "X number makes an event" kind of situations.

So what would happen if three XYZ members happened to show up at a the same party and none of them knew any other XYZ's were going to be there? And the party isn't being thrown by any XYZ member?

Does legal age or if the party is at a bar come into play?

What would happen if an XYZ from *another* chapter - say an alum - happened to come to a party where there were two active XYZ's from yet another chapter? Do the three of them an event make?

What about three separate biological brothers (or a say a Dad and his two sons) who are all members of XYZ and happen to have or attend a party? That just might rule out quite a few family holiday events.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by TSteven
I've really never understood these "X number makes an event" kind of situations.

So what would happen if three XYZ members happened to show up at a the same party and none of them knew any other XYZ's were going to be there? And the party isn't being thrown by any XYZ member?

Does legal age or if the party is at a bar come into play?

What would happen if an XYZ from *another* chapter - say an alum - happened to come to a party where there were two active XYZ's from yet another chapter? Do the three of them an event make?

What about three separate biological brothers (or a say a Dad and his two sons) who are all members of XYZ and happen to have or attend a party? That might rule out quite a few holiday events.

I wonder too. It makes me think that it's essentially a common sense piece that people are national offices are putting out. They're telling people not to try and skirt risk management issues by throwing off-campus parties. I don't know if anyone actually has this written up though...

-Rudey

[33girl]

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
ugh that sentence was so Doug Case it's gross.......

amen. If I never hear that sentence again it'll be too soon. It is an affront to ducks everywhere.

[DeltaSigStan]

Originally posted by 33girl
amen. If I never hear that sentence again it'll be too soon. It is an affront to ducks everywhere.

True that. Whenever Doug says it, it makes DU look bad..