Fahrenheit 9/11

[texas*princess]

Has anyone seen it?

It's really big here in Texas... it's been getting standing ovations!

Hopefully I'll see it this afternoon before work!

[swissmiss04]

Well I would have gone to see it, but the presiding local neocon Gestapo doesn't seem to take too well to films like this. I may be taking a road trip in the near future.

[Kevin]

I don't think it'll really change anyone's minds. What I don't get are all of these Republican-types screaming for it to be taken off screans. If you have maybe 2 or 3 functioning brain cells, you could figure out that Michael Moore isn't exactly unbiased and neither are his films. It doesn't take much in the way of mental processing capacity to figure out that not all of the stuff he claims is true -- just the opinions of a fella that has a lot of hate for the current administration.

I look forward to seeing the "documentary". It should be entertaining. If someone goes to it expecting a life changing experience, I think they'll be disappointed.

[Xylochick216]

I really want to see it, but my ultra-conservative town won't show it Good ol' Jerry Falwell let the Passion come to about 4 theaters, but won't let a liberal film in just one. The theaters say it's because they think it won't make money. I'll just have to take my business elsewhere and drive about an hour to see it.

If it's anything else like Michael Moore's other films, I'll love it. Sometimes he's a little too hard-core liberal for me, but I tend to agree with a lot of what he says.

[Kevin]

Are you implying that The Passion was a conservative film?

Michael Moore really needs to move out of the US. The man really seems to hate his country.

[lyrica9]

Originally posted by ktsnake
Are you implying that The Passion was a conservative film?

Michael Moore really needs to move out of the US. The man really seems to hate his country.

texas*princess and i went to see it this afternoon.
i think he actually does it because he loves this country, which he states in the film.

he says he is trying to raise peoples awareness about whats going on with this film.
why would he waste his time doing this if he hated america?

i think a lot of times its hard to separate people hating actions of a country from actually hating the country itself.

[Kevin]

This sounds like a man that loves his country:

"They are possibly the dumbest people on the planet . . . in thrall to conniving, thieving smug [pieces of the human anatomy]," Moore intoned. "We Americans suffer from an enforced ignorance. We don't know about anything that's happening outside our country. Our stupidity is embarrassing."

He's apparently (or his distributor for him) is going to sign a deal with Hezbullah to distribute the film in Arab countries. A real American.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

I have not seen this movie or "Bowling for Columbine," but "Roger & Me" still resonates over a decade later.

[lyrica9]

Originally posted by ktsnake
This sounds like a man that loves his country:



He's apparently (or his distributor for him) is going to sign a deal with Hezbullah to distribute the film in Arab countries. A real American.

so when he tries to sell his movie to arab nations he's unamerican, but the fact that our president has been doing business deals with big name arabs including the bin Laden family for decades doesn't make him unamerican?

i think its rather unfair to call someone unamerican simply based on their choice to do business with any particular country.

and the quote from him sounds like a man who is frustrated with his government, and with the way we get information, not someone who hates his country.

[swissmiss04]

I really don't see how Hezbollah has anything to do w/ film distribution in the Arab world. If Michael Moore is un-American for doing business in the Arab world, so is Coca-Cola, Pepsi, McDonalds, Hardees, KFC, Ernst&Young, Ford, Chevy, etc etc ad infinitum. Calling Arabs un-American is a pretty strong and inaccurate generalization.

Being a cynic doesn't make you unpatriotic.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by swissmiss04
I really don't see how Hezbollah has anything to do w/ film distribution in the Arab world. If Michael Moore is un-American for doing business in the Arab world, so is Coca-Cola, Pepsi, McDonalds, Hardees, KFC, Ernst&Young, Ford, Chevy, etc etc ad infinitum. Calling Arabs un-American is a pretty strong and inaccurate generalization.

Being a cynic doesn't make you unpatriotic.

Michael Moore film
appeals to terrorists
'Fahrenheit 9/11' gets thumbs-up from Hezbollah
Posted: June 17, 2004
5:00 p.m. Eastern


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Opponents of filmmaker Michael Moore are making the most of an endorsement his Bush-bashing film "Fahrenheit 9/11" received from terrorists affiliated with Hezbollah.

The Guardian of London reported today organizations related to the Middle East-based terrorist network have offered to help promote the film in the United Arab Emirates.

Rest of article here...
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=39012

[swissmiss04]

You should consider that some organizations started as charitable or educational foundations and then a splinter group (militant, of course) took over. So if an organization is affiliated with, say, Hezbollah or Hamas, then it's not necessarily (and in most cases, not at all) affiliated w/ terrorist activity. Al-Qaeda, as I'm sure you're aware, was founded to be militant, so anything affiliated w/ them is, of course, suspect. But don't be so quick to make assumptions.

Your sources had a very obvious bias. My guess is that the film won't be overwhelmingly viewed in the Arab world.

[cuaphi]

Here's what Christopher Hitchens on Slate on MSN had to say:

To describe this film as dishonest and demagogic would almost be to promote those terms to the level of respectability. To describe this film as a piece of crap would be to run the risk of a discourse that would never again rise above the excremental. To describe it as an exercise in facile crowd-pleasing would be too obvious. Fahrenheit 9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of abject political cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of "dissenting" bravery.


Read the rest here: He goes on to explain all the things he thinks Michael Moore embellished or just plain falsified.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

I'm going to see it tonight. I'll let you know what I think later.

[swissmiss04]

Thanks for the link. I think this film will be thought-provoking and little else. Moore's history proves that's he's got a panache for sensationalist revelations. I am definitely going to see this film, but with a grain of salt in tow.

[honeychile]

Michael Moore is a male who went onto one of the 60 Minute genre shows and said that F-911 was NOT a political film, and he expects us to believe his veracity?

On more than one station, on more than one broadcast, he has been "trapped" into admitting that he spliced the film to suit his own agenda.

He's not getting any of my money.





Postnote: If I had been Disney (the original distributor), instead of just saying that I wouldn't put it out, I would have just delayed it again and again, until, oh, mid-November. Sometimes that mouse isn't very bright...