Should everyone vote?

FHwku · #1 10-09-2004, 06:19 AM

Should everyone vote?

I don't think so. Particularly, people who get their information soley from the fake news or celebrities (e.g. Comedy Central's Daily Show with Jon Stewart; Fox News' Bill O'Reilly; P Diddy.)

PhiPsiRuss · #2 10-09-2004, 06:45 AM

People from Kentucky shouldn't vote.

CarolinaDG · #3 10-09-2004, 08:49 AM

Yeah, unfortunately usually it's the ignorant people who vote, and the intelligent people vote for, like, Nadar because they don't like either candidate.

Optimist Prime · #4 10-10-2004, 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by FHwku
Should everyone vote?

I don't think so. Particularly, people who get their information soley from the fake news or celebrities (e.g. Comedy Central's Daily Show with Jon Stewart; Fox News' Bill O'Reilly; P Diddy.)

Everyone should be required to vote. A no vote would still be an option on the ballot, but if you can't get your lazy ass to the voting booth, then you should be kicked out of the country. As well as anyone whose primacy source of news is mickey mouse (abc) Instant Messanger (cbs) or some stupid peacock. Why do they do that anyway. They are the only channel with a mascot.

hoosier · #5 10-10-2004, 07:00 PM

Vote early, and vote often.

CarolinaDG · #6 10-10-2004, 08:07 PM

Can I just say, too, that I just saw Farenheit 9/11 today, and although I'm not trying to start a huge discussion on here about this (there's already a thread about it, I'm sure) I think that everyone should see it, Republican and Democrat alike. It's definitely one of those things that gives you a little more information going into this election that may help you make your decision one way or the other. And even if you still want to vote Republican after seeing it, at least you've seen the points on the other side.

All right, plug over. I just thought it went along with the "being informed before you vote" part of this thread. Hopefully this won't start a huge debate... I'm sure that's on another thread already, like I said.

honeychile · #7 10-10-2004, 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
Everyone should be required to vote. A no vote would still be an option on the ballot, but if you can't get your lazy ass to the voting booth, then you should be kicked out of the country. As well as anyone whose primacy source of news is mickey mouse (abc) Instant Messanger (cbs) or some stupid peacock. Why do they do that anyway. They are the only channel with a mascot.

Even though I have never missed an election day since I was five, I completely disagree with you. In a free society, we should feel free to exercise our ability to vote for the candidates of our choice, or to protest by NOT voting. Frankly, I simply cannot imagine not voting - I think it's insulting to the several millions of people who have fought and died for us to have the privilege of voting - but I support the right of those who feel the need to protest.

As for F9/11, now that it's been proven that a large portion of the film is NOT a documentary so much as Michael Moore's version of the time, I will see it once it's considered a drama, and not a documentary. A documentary is to be a factual representation of events, not propaganda.

Speechpath · #8 10-10-2004, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
[B]Even though I have never missed an election day since I was five, I completely disagree with you. In a free society, we should feel free to exercise our ability to vote for the candidates of our choice, or to protest by NOT voting. Frankly, I simply cannot imagine not voting - I think it's insulting to the several millions of people who have fought and died for us to have the privilege of voting - but I support the right of those who feel the need to protest.
]

You got it! we should vote because we have the right to do so, no matter how smart you are. But I agree that you should also be able to not vote, if you so desire.

PhiPsiRuss · #9 10-10-2004, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
As for F9/11, now that it's been proven that a large portion of the film is NOT a documentary so much as Michael Moore's version of the time, I will see it once it's considered a drama, and not a documentary. A documentary is to be a factual representation of events, not propaganda.

Everything that Michael Moore does is propaganda. If his work was just presented as what it is, I would have no problem with him. Perhaps people who watch Michael Moore films should not be allowed to vote.

Optimist Prime · #10 10-10-2004, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
Even though I have never missed an election day since I was five, I completely disagree with you. In a free society, we should feel free to exercise our ability to vote for the candidates of our choice, or to protest by NOT voting. Frankly, I simply cannot imagine not voting - I think it's insulting to the several millions of people who have fought and died for us to have the privilege of voting - but I support the right of those who feel the need to protest.

As for F9/11, now that it's been proven that a large portion of the film is NOT a documentary so much as Michael Moore's version of the time, I will see it once it's considered a drama, and not a documentary. A documentary is to be a factual representation of events, not propaganda.

You missed the part where I said no vote would be an option...and in a result of a majority of no votes, all candidates will be disquallifed. Welcome to My America

Enjoy the Dolphin Safe Tuna Fish

DolphinChicaDDD · #11 10-10-2004, 10:59 PM

I think everyone should vote.

But I also feel that during presidental elections, it seems as my vote really doesn't count, so why would I bother.

Think about this: I live in NJ, historically very Democratic. We aren't a swing state and we don't have large numbers of electorial votes, so no one cares about us. In 2000, the first election I could vote in, Gore took the state by 16 points. Meaning, in all actuality, my vote didn't count. Had I not voted, it wouldn't make a difference.
(yeah, i know the if everyone had the same apathy, then it would matter, blah blah blah. i'm talking hypothetically here)

I actually got excited when waaaaaaay back in January, a political commentator made the statement to the effect that he thought NJ might actually go Republican or at least give the Dems a run for their money. Now, it seems that Kerry only has a slight lead in NJ. I'm not excited that Bush is catching up, because I'll be the first person to say I'm voting for Kerry. I'm excited that people are actually campaining in NJ. People want my vote.

For once, it seems my vote may actually count.

honeychile · #12 10-11-2004, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
You missed the part where I said no vote would be an option...and in a result of a majority of no votes, all candidates will be disquallifed. Welcome to My America Enjoy the Dolphin Safe Tuna Fish

Actually, I saw it, but misunderstood the wording. If you're going to include a place to mark/punch/whatever a "Protest this ballot", then I can agree with you.

CarolinaDG · #13 10-12-2004, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by DolphinChicaDDD
I think everyone should vote.

But I also feel that during presidental elections, it seems as my vote really doesn't count, so why would I bother.

Think about this: I live in NJ, historically very Democratic. We aren't a swing state and we don't have large numbers of electorial votes, so no one cares about us. In 2000, the first election I could vote in, Gore took the state by 16 points. Meaning, in all actuality, my vote didn't count. Had I not voted, it wouldn't make a difference.
(yeah, i know the if everyone had the same apathy, then it would matter, blah blah blah. i'm talking hypothetically here)

I actually got excited when waaaaaaay back in January, a political commentator made the statement to the effect that he thought NJ might actually go Republican or at least give the Dems a run for their money. Now, it seems that Kerry only has a slight lead in NJ. I'm not excited that Bush is catching up, because I'll be the first person to say I'm voting for Kerry. I'm excited that people are actually campaining in NJ. People want my vote.

For once, it seems my vote may actually count.

I'm the reverse. I live in S. Carolina and am one of probably about 5 (it seems like at least sometimes) Democrats. I still go out to vote, but I know that it doesn't really matter. I gotta admit, though... I wish there were just as many republicans that sat at home and didn't vote as Democrats who vote for Nadar.

AlphaGamDiva · #14 10-12-2004, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
People from Kentucky shouldn't vote.

that stings.

there are some ppl i wish wouldn't vote, but i think everyone should. it's each individual's responsibility to educate themselves on the candidates and see what they agree on......but there's no way someone should be allowed to stand at the polls and be like, "hey....you get your info from CNN or FOX? FOX? ok, you're outta here"