Alcohol Education: What do you want to see in a presentation?

PsychTau2 · #1 05-26-2005, 12:38 PM

Question for all of you (especially the current/recently graduated students):

What do you want to know about alcohol/drinking/safe consumption/whatever that you don't currently know?

What do you wish that the alcohol presentations taught you?

What messages do you think needs to be sent today (especially in light of this year's media coverage)?

What do students need to know in order to keep themselves safe?

(This is not a debate on laws, drinking age, etc. This is to gather ideas/thoughts/questions regarding alcohol education. We all have to attend these seminars at some point...what do you think students should be learning that they aren't?)

Play nice!!!

PsychTau

DeltAlum · #2 05-26-2005, 12:48 PM

http://delts.org/programs/dtaa/

Above is a very general discription of "Delts Talk About Alcohol."

I took the course a few years ago as an advisor. What I thought was good is that it doesn't attempt to stop people from drinking, but rather points out the effects of alcohol and other issues to make the drinking experience (if you choose to drink) a safe one.

This was the first partially Federally funded course in the Greek World and was shared with several other fraternities and sororities who were allowed to use the information under their own names.

Tom Earp · #3 05-27-2005, 05:29 PM

Thanks for the Links and Information!

I am sure if some of Our Members really saw the blood and gore that happens with Fellow Brothers and Sisters, it may bring home truisms of what can and will happen.

I guess Dead is Dead whether it be an individual or a Chapter being closed.

PsychTau2 · #4 05-27-2005, 10:34 PM

Ummm...well....okay.....

This thread isn't going exactly like I thought it would.

DeltAlum...thanks for the link. I'm interested in learning more, so I might contact Delt HQ in the near future (even though Delt isn't on my campus).

Anyone else want to contribute? I'm not looking for the usual questions (like "What is BAC?") or stuff like that...I'm talking about the stuff you wonder, but never really gets answered. One of my students asked me the other day "So, what exactly is going on in your body when you have a hangover? Why do you have one, and why are some worse than others?" Good question, I thought.

Anyway...just thought I'd give people the chance to contribute to something I'm working on.

PsychTau

AGDee · #5 05-27-2005, 11:28 PM

In all honesty, I feel like we need to get information from them. There are things I don't understand and I want to try to understand... My generation didn't do power hours or 21 shots on your birthday or these extreme drinking binges. We nursed a few drinks over the evening and kept a little buzz going without being out of control, without blacking out, without vomiting, etc. At some point, it became cool to drink to these extreme excesses and I want to understand how that came about and why, so that we can then figure out how to address it so that they can learn that moderation is better.

Dee

DeltAlum · #6 05-28-2005, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by PsychTau2
DeltAlum...thanks for the link. I'm interested in learning more, so I might contact Delt HQ in the near future (even though Delt isn't on my campus).

I'm sure they'll be glad to answer questions if they can. I think the number is 1-800-DELTSXL.

DCDisney · #7 06-01-2005, 02:07 PM

My suggestion would be some way to show that the current culture on the particular campus (ie. binge drinking, drinking games, items that accelerate drinking like ice luges) is harmful. In other words, somehow convey to the students that the current behaviors can hurt or kill them. show how it really can happen to them. I think the college age person thinks they are invincible and "it won't happen to me" attitude is pervasive ... yet a young college women died last spring, due to over-consumption ... maybe showing the metabolic processes that occur when binge drinking occurs ?????

I think the college student should be asking ... why should I care, I know that I drink a certain way and nothing bad has happened to me yet... why will it ?

33girl · #8 06-01-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by DCDisney
items that accelerate drinking like ice luges

OK, I hate to hijack, but I've got to ask...what on earth is an ice luge in this context?

CarolinaCutie · #9 06-01-2005, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
OK, I hate to hijack, but I've got to ask...what on earth is an ice luge in this context?

It's a big block of ice (with little luge-like channels) that you pour liquor into in order to take shots.

PsychTau2 · #10 06-01-2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by DCDisney
My suggestion would be some way to show that the current culture on the particular campus (ie. binge drinking, drinking games, items that accelerate drinking like ice luges) is harmful. In other words, somehow convey to the students that the current behaviors can hurt or kill them. show how it really can happen to them. I think the college age person thinks they are invincible and "it won't happen to me" attitude is pervasive ... yet a young college women died last spring, due to over-consumption ... maybe showing the metabolic processes that occur when binge drinking occurs ?????

I think the college student should be asking ... why should I care, I know that I drink a certain way and nothing bad has happened to me yet... why will it ?

Good point. I've already been thinking about how (it seems to me...) that students don't know/understand how alcohol gets them drunk, what the exact process it, and the timing of it all...so they overindulge in drinking games (which, lets face it, are fun...otherwise they wouldn't be happening) before the alcohol takes full effect. Then they're in trouble before they know it.

And I learned something new....didn't know what an ice luge was...we certainly never used one in the past...

PsychTau

33girl · #11 06-01-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by CarolinaCutie
It's a big block of ice (with little luge-like channels) that you pour liquor into in order to take shots.

But wouldn't that water the alcohol down? What's the point?? Do you get, like, a mold for this?

/hijack

Rudey · #12 06-01-2005, 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
But wouldn't that water the alcohol down? What's the point?? Do you get, like, a mold for this?

/hijack

There is no point to it. Girls think it's cool if you have them at your party. It's a waste for the alcohol but not because it waters down.

-Rudey
--All style, no substance.

Tom Earp · #13 06-01-2005, 05:14 PM

There is nothing wrong with your original post.

But, the idea also must include, Hey, I am away from parental control and on My own. I will do what I wanted to do, drink and socialize. Have a good time and get screwed up. Do Kids really want to drink till they pass out or die today? Not.

Forget what State, Wis./Mich. want to drop the Legal Drinking age for Military Personell who can drive a 10 Mil tank but cannot drink..

Their Problem is being held hostage by the Federal/Our Government to withhold $$$$$ from Federal Funds for Highway Projects like they did the first time for driving speed.

Contact Your Local Law Enforcement or any Drug/Alchol Agencys.

See if you can get film showing what can happen along with statistics. Blood and Gore goes a long way. So do Numbers.

Remember though as a youngster, Life is forever.

Reach My age, done what I have done, been where I have been and it does come home!

Being 63, and had all of the shit that I have been through, I wonder Why I am still here!

DCDisney · #14 06-02-2005, 12:43 PM

drinking age laws, whether created for some ulterior motive or not (i.e. federal funding or withholding it) ... they are the laws that must be complied with ... at least for now.

to me it's a metabolic or physiological thing .... with drinking games, ice luges, funnels and long tubes... whatever... metabollically they don't realize the full effect of the alcohol consumption until AFTER they've consumed ALOT. and then it is too late, or nearly too late. (unfortunately, as an adviser, I had to learn about certain drinking games and ice luges from pictures posted on the internet !!! ... unfortunately now I know how to play flip cup races and how to drink from an ice luge ... when I really didn't want to know about such things... ... ps... ice luges are easy to buy from wedding caterers ... at weddings the ice blocks are used for fancy carvings and fountains ... uncarved ones are sold fairly cheap... then for the party, channels are carved into... into the shape of a luge run... and then alcohol is poured from the top, it runs down the luge, and into the mouth of someone who has pressed their mouth and lips against the ice... makes the alcohol nice and cold... I guess)

personally, I do think that there's a difference in the capacity to accept responsibility .... of drinking vs operating heavy machinery in the military .... that someone 19 or 20 can be fully aware of their minds and their capabilities to fight for their country, or operate a tank .... but they may not be aware of what their bodies can physically handle before it's in danger.

There is a film out there, saw it recently, it was produced by PBS. It's being circulated to Greek Life directors ... it's about the Plattsburg NY tragedy. plenty of gory details are shown....

33girl · #15 06-02-2005, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by DCDisney
personally, I do think that there's a difference in the capacity to accept responsibility .... of drinking vs operating heavy machinery in the military .... that someone 19 or 20 can be fully aware of their minds and their capabilities to fight for their country, or operate a tank .... but they may not be aware of what their bodies can physically handle before it's in danger.

No.