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Old 08-19-2004, 09:48 AM
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Top Republican Changes Mind On War

Senior Republican Changes Tune
Rep. Bereuter Tells Constituents Iraq War Was a Mistake

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Rep. Doug Bereuter

LINCOLN, Neb. (Aug. 18) - A top Republican congressman has broken from his party in the final days of his House career, saying he believes the U.S. military assault on Iraq was unjustified and the situation there has deteriorated into "a dangerous, costly mess."

"I've reached the conclusion, retrospectively, now that the inadequate intelligence and faulty conclusions are being revealed, that all things being considered, it was a mistake to launch that military action," Rep. Doug Bereuter wrote in a letter to his constituents.

"Left unresolved for now is whether intelligence was intentionally misconstrued to justify military action," he said.

Bereuter is a senior member of the House International Relations Committee and vice chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. He is stepping down after 13 terms to become the president of the Asia Foundation effective Sept. 1.

The letter, sent to constituents who have contacted him about the war, was reported by the Lincoln Journal Star in its Wednesday editions.

In 2002, Bereuter had spoken out in support of a House resolution authorizing the president to go to war.

President Bush has continued to argue the war was justified because Saddam represented a threat to the United States, his neighbors and the people of Iraq.

Most Republicans and top administration officials say the war was justified even though no weapons of mass destruction have been found.

However, after a scathing Senate Intelligence Committee report concluded in early July that intelligence agencies had provided false assessments of the Iraqi threat before the war, the panel's Republican chairman - Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas - said Congress might not have approved the Iraq war had lawmakers known the truth.

Roberts said that without an immediate threat that Saddam had and was trying to get weapons of mass destruction, military action against Iraq still could have been justified on humanitarian grounds but that the battle plan might have been different from a full-scale invasion.

Bereuter said that in addition to "a massive failure or misinterpretation of intelligence," the Bush administration made several other errors in going to war.

"From the beginning of the conflict, it was doubtful that we for long would be seen as liberators, but instead increasingly as an occupying force," he said. "Now we are immersed in a dangerous, costly mess, and there is no easy and quick way to end our responsibilities in Iraq without creating bigger future problems in the region and, in general, in the Muslim world."

Bereuter said as a result of the war, "our country's reputation around the world has never been lower and our alliances are weakened."

Bereuter declined to answer questions Wednesday about the letter. His spokesman Alan Feyerherm said the congressman "feels the letter speaks for itself."

Lincoln City Council member Jeff Fortenberry, a Republican, is facing off against Democratic state Sen. Matt Connealy to replace Bereuter.

08/18/04 18:54 EDT
Copyright 2004 The Associated Press.
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Old 08-19-2004, 09:53 AM
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It's strange that his comments come at a time like this, during an election year and right before he leaves office.

Kind of makes you wonder who promised him what to say those things.

In D.C., people don't just change their minds on things like this. There are greater forces at work.
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Old 08-19-2004, 10:47 AM
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I don't understand how he's a top Republican first of all. Second of all if you knew anything about conservatives vs. neo-conservatives you would have known that this is nothing new.

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Old 08-19-2004, 11:56 AM
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I don't understand how he's a top Republican first of all. Second of all if you knew anything about conservatives vs. neo-conservatives you would have known that this is nothing new.

-Rudey
I've never heard of the guy. AP says he a top Republican.

As for why he speaks out now? How about he doesn't have to take the party line since he's not running for re-election? I can't speak for him, but that would be my guess.
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Old 08-19-2004, 02:16 PM
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Old 08-19-2004, 02:32 PM
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FLIP-FLOPPER!!!
Yes Kerry is a Flip-Flopper. Honestly I don't understand why you even bring this up even jokingly. If I were you I would avoid using the word since it hurts Democrats and Kerry.

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Old 08-19-2004, 02:35 PM
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I've never heard of the guy. AP says he a top Republican.
He's definitely a more senior Republican. He's not in the House leadership, but he's been in Congress for 13 terms and is the Vice-Chair of the House Intelligence Committee. I definitely think its fair to say he is a top House Republican.
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Old 08-19-2004, 05:10 PM
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Thanks for the information.
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Old 08-19-2004, 05:16 PM
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FLIP-FLOPPER!!!
(Sigh) I thought you were talking about President Bush who recently decided (since there is pressure -- his paraphrase) to study allowing Americans, States, etc. to buy prescription drugs outside the United States which he was absolutely against before.

Come on guys. This whole Kerry flip-flop thing is a propaganda campaign by the GOP.

Everyone flip-flops -- especially when it is politically expedient.

Please, Lord, let's get this election overwith.
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Old 08-19-2004, 05:46 PM
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I'd like to see the polling data on this guy's district so that his comments can be placed in proper context.
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Old 08-19-2004, 05:53 PM
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(Sigh) I thought you were talking about President Bush who recently decided (since there is pressure -- his paraphrase) to study allowing Americans, States, etc. to buy prescription drugs outside the United States which he was absolutely against before.

Come on guys. This whole Kerry flip-flop thing is a propaganda campaign by the GOP.

Everyone flip-flops -- especially when it is politically expedient.

Please, Lord, let's get this election overwith.
Not everyone straddles. Don't try and make that into some accusation. Kerry is called a flip-flopper not just because he changes his opinion over time given new information and a new context; he does it by not giving answers.

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Old 08-19-2004, 06:02 PM
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Old 08-19-2004, 08:53 PM
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Not everyone straddles. Don't try and make that into some accusation. Kerry is called a flip-flopper not just because he changes his opinion over time given new information and a new context; he does it by not giving answers.

-Rudey

If I felt one way at one time, and subsequently was given new information and in a new context, I would change my mind too, possibly... or at least rethink my position. What else is a person supposed to do? I don't think that makes someone any less credible.
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Old 08-19-2004, 09:16 PM
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If I felt one way at one time, and subsequently was given new information and in a new context, I would change my mind too, possibly... or at least rethink my position. What else is a person supposed to do? I don't think that makes someone any less credible.
As I said in the post you quoted, it's not about changing your answer over time, it's about not having an answer and straddling an issue.

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Old 08-20-2004, 09:31 AM
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Don't try and make that into some accusation.
Don't bother telling me what to or not to do.
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