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07-28-2004, 02:27 PM
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Define trespassing on Greek House
What would be trespassing?? if you were able to see in their window (with blinds open and you can see it from the street) i wouldnt call it trespassing and does PNH or IFC or the Greek office have right to check your hose to make sure nothing bad is happening or going on.........for example - beer vending machine. please post your thoughts but NO bashing!
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07-28-2004, 04:36 PM
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BabyP, no, does not = trespassing.
Obsearving from the out side is not trespassing.
If a Police Officer comes to your door, and see a substances that may be construed as Drugs, they have the right to go in the door.
As far as the IFC and NIC, they do not have the right to enter your house without an invitation. Invasion of privacy, but, not comes the rub, If The Door Is Open, it is a come on in situation.
Just dont wave your dirty laundry in front of everyones noses! Asking for trouble for sure! More ways than one!
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07-28-2004, 05:29 PM
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In Oklahoma, it's only trespassing if you've already been forbidden to enter. For example we had a neighbor that kept harassing our actives about noise (he lives a long ways away and 9/10 times we had nothing to do with the noise). He kept coming onto the property and letting himself in.
I had our house corp. president write a letter to him forbidding him to enter our property or we would have him charged with trespassing.
We haven't heard from him since then.. but we may next semester.
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07-28-2004, 05:31 PM
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I'd say, trespassing is entering a house without being invited in.
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07-29-2004, 09:51 AM
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Trespassing is yet another legal term that is probably defined differently from state to state and possibly even city to city.
So there are probably hundreds of answers to the question -- depending on the location.
I think it would be OK to say that basically it would entail at least being on private property without the owners permission.
Small hijack:
I can tell you from a news standpoint, a crew must leave that property if asked -- however the crew can still shoot pictures of the property from a public street or other adjacent property if they haven't been asked to leave.
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07-29-2004, 10:10 AM
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I can tell you from a news standpoint, a crew must leave that property if asked -- however the crew can still shoot pictures of the property from a public street or other adjacent property if they haven't been asked to leave.
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I think that's the standard definition of trespassing. It's the same here for news crews (I was a one-man news crew for a few semesters in college). The way the trespassing law works (at least here) you must be told to leave before you can be charged with the crime.
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07-29-2004, 12:03 PM
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It would only be considered trespassing if you walk up the side of the house and end up on the roof (without using a rope).
That would have to be the only way really to "define trespassing on Greek House." Although it would make for a kickass stunt and the charges should be dropped because of said kickass stunt.
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07-29-2004, 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by damasa
It would only be considered trespassing if you walk up the side of the house and end up on the roof (without using a rope).
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Really? As I understood it (but I'm not a lawyer), if you're on somebody's property, are asked to leave, and don't -- you're trespassing. You could be right, though.
It could be, I suppose, that if the house is owned by a public university it might be considered a public place and the trespassing law might not apply.
Again, I think we need a lawyer type to weigh in on this one.
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07-29-2004, 03:50 PM
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You're right in that trespassing laws vary from state to state - incidentally, these are closely related to stalking laws, as they are interlinked content-wise - but if the land is owned/leased/rented by a public university, the property (ex: Greek house) is still held in name by a person or organization implying continuing or temporary ownership. Therefore, a student who is kicked out of Greek housing and stays may be charged with trespassing if s/he continues to reside at that address.
Some states have an implied right of ownership that enforces trespassing as a state in which someone has invaded a private property or building without invitation. Others cases, such as land expanses, need posted proof that it is owned by someone else such as No Trespassing signs. But I'm pretty sure that you could be charged with home invasion, intent to burglerize or trespassing for being on a property without prior invitation - it all goes back to intent.
Sidenote: If you're looking in the windows of a structure on a property and you are on said property, you can still be considered a trespasser. However, you can always be charged with loitering if you insist on viewing the property on a public plot, seeing as how loitering laws are everywhere  Also, someone can call you in as a suspicious person and police can require you for questioning if someone reports you as a nuisance.
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07-29-2004, 04:08 PM
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"define trespassing on Greek House."
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I think he's referring to the verb "on" as opposed to "in" and the reference specifically to house, not just to property.
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