Palestine - Israel Discussion

[Reds6]

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On any given day, Jews protest the fact that our brothers and sisters are slaughtered and murdered by Arab terrorists.

-Rudey [/B]

And our Jewish brothers and sisters are also slaughtering and murdering Arabs. It goes both ways.

[Reds6]

Originally posted by Rudey
You're right we should. I guess the only thing I can say is that there would be tons of protests about America going into another country. Regardless we should and so should the rest of the world.

And I don't buy the whole not knowing your roots thing because evidently African Americans still could protest Apartheid in South Africa.

-Rudey

One reason we protested apartheid so heavily is because it was similiar to our experiences as African Americans in the civil rights movement. But that doesn't take away from the fact that we are just as passionalte about other issues that inflict the country. Just because you haven't personally seen it or heard about it in the media doesn't mean its not happening.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Reds6
And our Jewish brothers and sisters are also slaughtering and murdering Arabs. It goes both ways.

Not quite...we don't target civilians but keep trying.

-Rudey

[Reds6]

Originally posted by Rudey
Not quite...we don't target civilians but keep trying.

-Rudey

So all of those innocent Arab civilians that get killed are what? Just in the wrong place at the wrong time? Although I have never been to Israel, my Dad lives there and my sister and I know the conflict and violence is being perpetrated by both side.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by Reds6
So all of those innocent Arab civilians that get killed are what? Just in the wrong place at the wrong time? Although I have never been to Israel, my Dad lives there and my sister and I know the conflict and violence is being perpetrated by both side.

That's a ridiculous statement.

Do Israelis strap bombs on their backs and blow themselves up on busses full of nothing but civilians? Do they target anyone at random? If the Palestinians would turn these criminal killers in, there wouldn't be collateral damage. If you surround yourself with human shields, you shouldn't be surprised when some of them get killed when you have a bomb dropped on you.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Reds6
So all of those innocent Arab civilians that get killed are what? Just in the wrong place at the wrong time? Although I have never been to Israel, my Dad lives there and my sister and I know the conflict and violence is being perpetrated by both side.

Yes that's right you've never been there and don't know much about the region or that country in general. You know what? Let Israel take care of its business. Let it just not worry about civilians and putting its soldiers in harm's way. I would be more than happy for that.

I don't care what your dad does or where he lives or his personal opinion. If you have facts, open up a whole new thread and we can discuss them. But then again you ran away from the whole Reagan thread so who knows if you will. Until then let's just talk about Sudan and how the African American community is silent.

-Rudey

[Reds6]

Originally posted by Rudey
Yes that's right you've never been there and don't know much about the region or that country in general. You know what? Let Israel take care of its business. Let it just not worry about civilians and putting its soldiers in harm's way. I would be more than happy for that.

I don't care what your dad does or where he lives or his personal opinion. If you have facts, open up a whole new thread and we can discuss them. But then again you ran away from the whole Reagan thread so who knows if you will. Until then let's just talk about Sudan and how the African American community is silent.

-Rudey

I commented on YOUR statement and apparently if someone holds a difference of opinion than yours, you want to start getting insulting.
Matter of fact I was actually going to post wrong thread,but just hadn't yet.
I don't think I stated my Dad's personal opinion and I'm sure he'll be worried to know that you don't care anything about him. It sounds to me like you are saying all Jews should share the same opinion on the matter, just as African Americans should all share the same opinion on the Sudan. But you may want to consider some of us are made of up different types of ethnicities.

[Reds6]

Originally posted by ktsnake
That's a ridiculous statement.

Do Israelis strap bombs on their backs and blow themselves up on busses full of nothing but civilians? Do they target anyone at random? If the Palestinians would turn these criminal killers in, there wouldn't be collateral damage. If you surround yourself with human shields, you shouldn't be surprised when some of them get killed when you have a bomb dropped on you.

No they just wipe out entire communities with one big bomb.
But as much as I hate agree with Rudey this is a thread on the Sudan.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Reds6
I commented on YOUR statement and apparently if someone holds a difference of opinion than yours, you want to start getting insulting.
Matter of fact I was actually going to post wrong thread,but just hadn't yet.
I don't think I stated my Dad's personal opinion and I'm sure he'll be worried to know that you don't care anything about him. It sounds to me like you are saying all Jews should share the same opinion on the matter, just as African Americans should all share the same opinion on the Sudan. But you may want to consider some of us are made of up different types of ethnicities.

Nobody got insulting. Please show the insult. Again, if you have facts and want to start a new thread please do. I don't give a crap what all Jews say, do, or think. Well I guess I do but when all Jews agree on something, that'd be a new day. What I do care about is facts. IF you have them, start the thread...don't be afraid. I hope you can be respectful and understand this thread is about Sudan but I am more than willing to talk with you about Israel in a different thread.

-Rudey

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Reds6
No they just wipe out entire communities with one big bomb.
But as much as I hate agree with Rudey this is a thread on the Sudan.

Yes those Arab murderers and terrorists do destroy communities and lives with their big bombs with metal, screws, nails, bolts all in there. Yes they do.

-Rudey
--You have difficulties with facts.

[Reds6]

Classic a thread was started in my name. So GC! I was getting to it. LOL

[Reds6]

Originally posted by Rudey
Yes those Arab murderers and terrorists do destroy communities and lives with their big bombs with metal, screws, nails, bolts all in there. Yes they do.

-Rudey
--You have difficulties with facts.

My opinion, is that both sides contribute to the violence, who you feel is wrong depends on where you fall on the issue.

Yes some Palestinians have strapped bombs to their chest and taken innocent lives, but the some of the Jews are doing the same thing just with bigger weapons.
Both parties can't seem to live together in peace. I'm not going to let the fact of my Jewish heritage to only allow me to see one side of the issue.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Reds6
My opinion, is that both sides contribute to the violence, who you feel is wrong depends on where you fall on the issue.

Yes some Palestinians have strapped bombs to their chest and taken innocent lives, but the some of the Jews are doing the same thing just with bigger weapons.
Both parties can't seem to live together in peace. I'm not going to let the fact of my Jewish heritage to only allow me to see one side of the issue.

Again, please post facts. I don't ask what your favorite color is, whether you like Chinese or Indian food, and I certainly don't care about someone's personal feelings towards a situation.

No I don't believe there are "Jews" (by the way Israelis) that "are doing the same thing" [strapping "bombs to their chest and taken innocent lives"] using "bigger weapons". Yes there are Israelis that have taken it upon themself to violently lash out at Arabs. But in general the country doesn't support them, has banned their political parties, and their free speech is limited under hate laws so if they hang up a picture calling Arabs pigs, they go to prison.

-Rudey

[Reds6]

Originally posted by Rudey
Again, please post facts. I don't ask what your favorite color is, whether you like Chinese or Indian food, and I certainly don't care about someone's personal feelings towards a situation.

No I don't believe there are "Jews" (by the way Israelis) that "are doing the same thing" [strapping "bombs to their chest and taken innocent lives"] using "bigger weapons". Yes there are Israelis that have taken it upon themself to violently lash out at Arabs. But in general the country doesn't support them, has banned their political parties, and their free speech is limited under hate laws so if they hang up a picture calling Arabs pigs, they go to prison.

-Rudey

Rudey please take your own advice and post facts, you haven't posted one yet

[Reds6]

BTW, hold your thoughts to me I'm going on vacation, be back July 6th.