NPC Question

[lifesaver]

Its been years since I have been near 'the big green book' so I have a question.


What is the rule about setting up a university NPC? Specifically, how many NPC groups are required? If a certain number of NPC groups are at a school is there a point where they should/have to organize?

Reason I ask. I am a fraternity advisor at a small catholic university. There are currently 2 NPC groups on the campus. A third is wanting to expand. The university is very pro-greek life, however the greek advisor told me that she will not allow a NPC or IFC to form. She feels its seperation based on sex and she doestn think the admin will go for it. They are trying to organize a greek council instead. I think a greek council is good, but I really think the sororities need to be organized under a university NPC as well.

Feedback please.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

A Panhellenic is required (by NPC) if there are two or more NPC groups.

Also, from the reaction I remember to our Greek Council, it's an idea that NPC is not happy with and not supportive of, in general.

You would do best to contact NPC or have one of the women's GLO's contact them. Their NPC reps would be VERY interested to know what you just told us.

[33girl]

It is NOT separation based on sex - tell her it's like the US Senate and each sorority is a state.

As soon as there are 2 sororities on campus, an NPC should be formed. The older sorority must take the initiative to form the panhellenic. This isn't negotiable, this is an NPC rule that all its member chapters must follow. If the university doesn't want to follow it it should not have allowed more than one NPC on the campus.

If you have any questions PM me.

[Tom Earp]

OMG, lifesaver, another dark ages administrator!

This is really something new to UIW and would be a great time for The School to grow toward being more Greek Orientated.

But, sounds like the Brakes are already being put on them.

Would you please List the Currernt Greek Social Groups on Campus.

There is the same Problem in many Schools.

Cant, Wont, Dont Want To!

[aopirose]

Lifesaver, I feel you. If the GA truly understands about NPC or NIC or even NPHC for that matter then there shouldn’t be a problem. The organizations ARE separated by sex and they OPERATE DIFFERENTLY. Of course, you can have an All-Greek Council too. They usually just coordinate general Greek activities like a big philanthropy or Greek Week. I know that some posters on here have these kinds of systems and can shed more light..

Anyway, the GB says that a College Panhellenic Association is formed when two or more NPC groups have chapters on a campus. Here is an NPC link of CPH area advisors. I invite you to get together with the sororities’ advisors and contact the lady for your state. The NPC Area Advisor can surely help the GA to convince the administration as to why this is needed.
http://www.npcwomen.org/college/c_advisors.php

Good luck!

[DolphinChicaDDD]

Ditto-ing everyone else about the Green Book rules, but I'm going to add in my personal experience. Our Greek Advisor wasn't too found of having seperate councils, not because of sexism, but he didn't feel that NPC/IFC/BGLO/MGLO should be seperate from each other. Instead, we had Greek Council which oversaw everything.

Our Panhellenic(of which I was on the E-Board) oversaw recruitment, all sorority philantrophy events, handled PR, and made created bylaws that was sorority specific. We had to be invited to Greek Council, and Greek Council had to be invited to come sit at our meetings. We didn't even have an IFC or anything else. Basically, Panhel existed cause it had to exsit and for recruitment.

[lifesaver]

Thanks everyone. What Dolphin Chica was saying is why I'd like to see NPC on campus. If you dont have NPC on campus coordinating recruitment, its not fair to everyone and it wont bring in the maximum number of girls possible to greek life. I have seen NPC recruitment and at times with everything operating perfectly, your have issues between groups and the NPC is the best way to resolve them.

I guess I was just wondering who I'd need to contact to get the ball rolling. The university GA is NOT a member of an NPC sorority and I guess doesnt understand its function. I have spoken to her about it, btu it doesnt need to come from me.

[Tom Earp]

lifesaver, your question is very valid.

But, The Awful But, raises its head.

Well, Whinning We jus cannot do it! Got to love those Colleges.

Well, the question is, why not? That gives a starting point for disscusion to work from. I have gone through this with The GA at PSU and is is always, "Well, it is just not done".

Paleeze, climb off of the what, why, and how come attitude.

Where you are talking about is virually virgin territory and it is all new to Them.

Be The Leader That I l know That You Can Be and Will Be!

[aephi alum]

Ditto what has been already said: 2 or more NPC sororities -> form a local Panhel. Whichever sorority has been on campus longer should take the initiative.

There is nothing to say you can't have a Greek Council as well. When I was an active, all fraternities, sororities, and independent living groups (think co-ed fraternities) were members of IFC, except I believe for the NPHC orgs. Sororities also had Panhel, and the ILGs also had their own council. So there's no reason why you can't have an IFC and Panhel and a Greek Council, as long as it is well established which groups handle what.

[PKTKKG]

At some schools, a sorority council is established that includes the NPC and NPHC chapters. Perhaps this would be an idea for your school to show how it can be inclusive but address the issues specific to women's groups.

Just a thought!

[Janerz222]

[I started the Panhel at my school (eons ago), so this thread is near-and-dear to my heart. All Greek groups were (and are) unrecognized by my university, so we at least didn't have the added burden of trying to convince the adminstration to support us.]

Anyway, also have both NPC groups on that campus contact their inter/national HQs. Both groups have delegates to the National Panhellenic Conference who can help them and get the right NPC officer(s) involved to assist and guide them.

It is hard at the beginning with 2 groups, especially if they are used to doing recruitment alone and/or in different ways. But, I truly believe it's better to be on board with NPC and the earlier the better. It makes for the fairest, most congenial, and most mutually beneficial environment for the groups. But, it takes a lot of patience and explanation to and inclusion of all the groups' members. It also helps tons to have a Panhel in place when the time is right for expansion.

Thanks for helping them!

[PhiPsiRuss]

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned it, but don't forget the pillow fights in nighties. Absolutely necessary for good sorority relations.

[AEPhiSierra]

I agree that having a Panhellenic doesn't mean you can't have and participate in a Greek Council.

On my campus our Inter-Greek Council is the dominant council which includes NIC, NPC, NPHC and local GLO's. It meets weekly and takes care of booking tables at the Club Fair, IGC Rush Fair, Greek Week, PR, inter-greek spats, inter-greek event publicity and recognition of new GLO's.

Our Panhellenic is separate and meets during formal recruitment to schedule recruitment and enforce our rules and when any other issues may arise.

The only real problem I could see arising with our current arrangement is a local sorority could come on campus without NPC approval but by getting the support of the IGC.

[33girl]

Lifesaver, I sent you some contact info.

[WhirlwindTNX]

This is a completely different question, but still deals with NPC. On Pitt's campus we have a National Panhellenic Association (which is also refered to as Panhellenic Assocication on Pitts website). What is the difference between NPC and NPA (PA)?