Should more "mostly AA/Asian/Hispanic sororities and fraternities" be integrated?

OldSigmaChi · #1 05-13-2004, 05:10 PM

Saw a similar post earlier; turnabout discussion is only fair

adpiucf · #2 05-13-2004, 05:16 PM

Do they even want to?

According to Alexandra Robbins, historically white sororities are devil-spawn. Her opinion of PanHellenic seems to be much higher, and I would think she'd rather keep the groups segregated, because she is, after all, an expert on the subject.

HederaNaturale · #3 05-13-2004, 05:26 PM

I'm gonna do a hit-and-run here...

"Integration" is a tricky word, and in the sense of, if a non-black person has the credentials, the drive, the heart, the mesh to feel comfortable and be an assest to a HBGLO, go for it. And the same vice-versa. If a non-white person has the credentials, drive, heart, and mesh to feel comfortable and be an asset to a HWGLO, they should be able to go for that and get a fair shake, too.

I don't think that we should all join hands and sing kumbaya and strive to have all races equally distributed between all GLOs, because that's the way the world should be... politically incorrect as this may be, it's true that cultural differences exist, and instead of trying to blot them out and homogenize the world, we should embrace and respect those differences. Different systems have different setups, different needs, ask different things of their members. We should be so lucky that there's something for everyone in the GLO universe.

nice topic. this should be interesting. i'm off for the summer and bored as all

HederaNaturale · #4 05-13-2004, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by adpiucf
Do they even want to?

According to Alexandra Robbins, historically white sororities are devil-spawn. Her opinion of PanHellenic seems to be much higher, and I would think she'd rather keep the groups segregated, because she is, after all, an expert on the subject.

I've heard someone mention this before, and I'm curious as to what exaclty she says. I havn't read the book, and have yet to make it to the bookstore to check it out.

Tom Earp · #5 05-13-2004, 05:31 PM

Dang, and I always wanted to be an expert!

I dont know if intergration about above said Groups would be proper.

It has always been my contention that a person should join the Organization that they feel the most comfortable with and are accepted with the most. Not by race, religion or anything else.

Honeykiss1974 · #6 05-13-2004, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by HederaNaturale
I've heard someone mention this before, and I'm curious as to what exaclty she says. I havn't read the book, and have yet to make it to the bookstore to check it out.

In either this or last week's Newsweek (the one with Back Pain featured as a coverstory) there is a blip in there about this book in which she says this too.

Tex1899 · #7 05-13-2004, 05:44 PM

Sort of off topic...why do most BGLO and Hispanic GLO chapters tend to be smaller than NIC/NPC groups? I'm not too familiar with traditionally Asian groups...do they tend to be smaller?

If I had to guess, I would think Hispanic and Asian GLO's would be bigger in California...

angelove · #8 05-13-2004, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by HederaNaturale
"Integration" is a tricky word, and in the sense of, if a non-black person has the credentials, the drive, the heart, the mesh to feel comfortable and be an assest to a HBGLO, go for it. And the same vice-versa. If a non-white person has the credentials, drive, heart, and mesh to feel comfortable and be an asset to a HWGLO, they should be able to go for that and get a fair shake, too.

I don't think that we should all join hands and sing kumbaya and strive to have all races equally distributed between all GLOs, because that's the way the world should be... politically incorrect as this may be, it's true that cultural differences exist, and instead of trying to blot them out and homogenize the world, we should embrace and respect those differences. Different systems have different setups, different needs, ask different things of their members. We should be so lucky that there's something for everyone in the GLO universe.

Ditto! This quote should be pasted into every thread discussing "integration" issues.

adpiucf · #9 05-13-2004, 06:08 PM

I agree that it's nice to have more than one system in place. I think that gives GLO's additional credibility, and it allows potential members different choices.

I think having different groups allows us to have different systems and learn from one another. NPC has been called antiquated by some. I support NPC and its policies, but I understand the stereotypes and misperceptions. I think additional governing groups would be beneficial to erase this stereotype and to encourage progress.

starang21 · #10 05-13-2004, 06:14 PM

i'm a non-black member of a BGLO.

PhiPsiRuss · #11 05-13-2004, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by adpiucf
NPC and its policies

Tom Earp · #12 05-13-2004, 06:23 PM

WOW, both last two posts interesting!

Glitterkitty · #13 05-13-2004, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss

I totally agree. The individual groups in the in the NPC would be, IMO, better off with a total revamping or better yet, disolving of the NPC. A new, more modern umbrella organization would be most beneficial to this particular system.

Tom Earp · #14 05-13-2004, 06:42 PM

DONT SAY THAT TO LOUD!

You will be stoned! Heresay I say if I was a member of NPC.

aopinthesky · #15 05-13-2004, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by Glitterkitty
I totally agree. The individual groups in the in the NPC would be, IMO, better off with a total revamping or better yet, disolving of the NPC. A new, more modern umbrella organization would be most beneficial to this particular system.

Not that this surprises me, coming from you, but many NPC women are happy with the system. Every organization - including NPC - can be improved but a total revamping or dissolution? That is a pretty strong statement - particularly if you are not an NPC member and even if you are. Please enlighten me on what the NPC has done to you to lead you to this conclusion.