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Old 05-15-2004, 05:49 PM
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Today's world silencing conservatives?

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...d=970599119419

Do you think Focus on the Family has the right to put up ads like this? Do you think being too PC silences some conservatives?

This editorial also appeared in today's paper:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...l=968350116795
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Old 05-15-2004, 06:19 PM
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Old 05-15-2004, 08:24 PM
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Of course they have that right. And yes, I think that being too PC silences some conservatives.
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Old 05-15-2004, 09:06 PM
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Sure, being PC silences Conservatives. One need look no further than GC. Certain members, Tom Earp, Hoosier, sometimes myself catch a little hell for having views that don't step in line with PC-ness. People are throwing around the words like bigot, racist, etc. pretty easily these days -- so much so, that I don't know if they'd know the real thing if they saw it.
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Old 05-17-2004, 10:38 AM
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I think "being PC" (a catch-all term which is often a huge cop-out) affects everyone, not just conservatives.

I also think that "conservative" broadcasters such as Rush and a number of others have managed to "bully" listeners and guests for the past several years by basically "out yelling" them. Even when I agree with them, I really hate that technique.

I'd sure like to see a little more ballance (not the kind Fox News claims) in presentation.
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Old 05-17-2004, 10:59 AM
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While being PC probably does silence some conservatives, it is possible to say what you feel, think, believe in whithout being hateful.
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Old 05-17-2004, 11:03 AM
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It all depends on where you are. Here, for example. Conservatives are never silenced, because they are the majority. I see tons of pro-life and religious ads. Sunday morning TV is nothing but church services, even on cable (with a few exceptions, of course!). There are billboards and signs touting traditionally conservative values and causes. When politicians run for office here, they sling mud by calling their opponent "liberal". I wish I were kidding.
I can see that in other areas of the country that conservatives would feel silenced. Here, that's definitely not the case.
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Old 05-17-2004, 11:55 AM
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Old 05-17-2004, 12:06 PM
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You can say you disagree with something without getting offensive. You can dislike without hating. These are all fine lines.

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Old 05-17-2004, 12:40 PM
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The ad is nothing more than a mom, a dad and a little kid. What's wrong with that, anyway? I'm wondering, would people be just as upset if the family wasn't white?
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Old 05-17-2004, 03:37 PM
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I'd sure like to see a little more ballance (not the kind Fox News claims) in presentation

If you would actually watch a Fox News Report, you would see that they consistently report on breaking news from an actual fair and balanced perspective. Do not judge their objectivity simply because Sean Hannity is moderator for one particular show. They are the best cable news channel out there, and the ratings prove it. Always reporting EVERY story, not picking and choosing what fits their agenda like some other networks.

They get a hard time from the press b/c they don't follow the conventional tradition of bashing anything to the right of Susan Sarandon. They are not conservative, they just do not ignore the conservative voice, which angers the elite media, who have done this for quite some time.
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Old 05-17-2004, 03:59 PM
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If you would actually watch a Fox News Report, you would see that they consistently report on breaking news from an actual fair and balanced perspective. Do not judge their objectivity simply because Sean Hannity is moderator for one particular show. They are the best cable news channel out there, and the ratings prove it. Always reporting EVERY story, not picking and choosing what fits their agenda like some other networks.

They get a hard time from the press b/c they don't follow the conventional tradition of bashing anything to the right of Susan Sarandon. They are not conservative, they just do not ignore the conservative voice, which angers the elite media, who have done this for quite some time.
I haven't found them to exactly live up to their motto: "we report, you decide." For instance, this comment from an anchor (I think it was the daytime anchor, David Asman):

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According to the recent polls, 51% of the American people think that Bush is doing a bad job on the economy and only 38% think that he is doing a good job. This just shows that the American people are uninformed.
I won't deny that many, many Americans are uninformed, but whether or not that statement is fair and balanced....?
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Old 05-17-2004, 04:00 PM
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I haven't found them to exactly live up to their motto: "we report, you decide." For instance, this comment from an anchor (I think it was the daytime anchor, David Asman):



I won't deny that many, many Americans are uninformed, but whether or not that statement is fair and balanced....?
You know the quote by heart evidently, but not the anchor for sure?

Was someone just posting something they saw on another website?

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Old 05-17-2004, 04:12 PM
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If you would actually watch a Fox News Report, you would see that they consistently report on breaking news from an actual fair and balanced perspective. Do not judge their objectivity simply because Sean Hannity is moderator for one particular show. They are the best cable news channel out there, and the ratings prove it. Always reporting EVERY story, not picking and choosing what fits their agenda like some other networks.

They get a hard time from the press b/c they don't follow the conventional tradition of bashing anything to the right of Susan Sarandon. They are not conservative, they just do not ignore the conservative voice, which angers the elite media, who have done this for quite some time.
Actually, Fox News is the only major news network where former employees have actually accused the station of promoting an agenda. As we've discussed in other threads on GC, other major news networks may appear to promote agendas because the journalists themselves, not the network, spin pieces a certain way. But Fox News is the only one where the directions to spin a report come from the higher-ups.

That's another issue for another thread though.

Of course PC-ness silences conservatives. It also silences liberals. I don't think there's anybody who's unaffected by PC-ness.

I agree with those who have said that there's a difference between expressing disapproval and spreading hate propaganda. If the group in question is really about "protecting marriage and protecting family" they can do that without hate.
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Old 05-17-2004, 04:17 PM
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I agree with those who have said that there's a difference between expressing disapproval and spreading hate propaganda. If the group in question is really about "protecting marriage and protecting family" they can do that without hate.
I agree. However, even when a conservative individual chooses their words in a non-hateful way, they are accused of bigotry. If to them "protecting marriage and protecting family" involves being against homosexuality and they state that in a way that is not rude or disrespectful, then that should be okay. But regardless of how it is said, it's un-PC.
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