Confused Republicans

Rudey · #1 03-09-2004, 02:06 AM

Anyone else in the same boat as me?

I'm feeling torn on certain issues. The main reason I'm still in favor of Bush is the fact of his suppert for Israel but I feel that is stsrting to waver now.

My biggest gripe is the expansion of the government and spending. It is driving me insane coming up with ways to back up his policies. Second to that is how I feel free speech is being limited and Howard Stern is the perfect example of that.

At the same time I don't care much for foolish Democrats.

-Rudey
--I think Buckley should run for President

mrblonde · #2 03-09-2004, 02:29 AM

The parties really seem to be polarizing, alienating the leaning moderates (i.e. 90% of voters)

Having said that, I want a president who will get the bulk of the US Armed Forces out of Iraq and the UN in (for purely selfish reasons, I have a lot of friends in Iraq and Saudi Arabia), so I may actually vote Democratic.

'The worst part about being a liberal is all the other liberals.'
- Bono

Sistermadly · #3 03-09-2004, 02:51 AM

Rudey,

There was a good article in the Atlanta Journal Constitution about Bob Barr and how he's feeling pretty much the same way as you. He's still a Republican on some key issues, but he thinks that the party is getting away from its core mission.

It was just published a day or so ago, so if you go to http://www.ajc.com and do a search for 'bob barr', you should be able to find the story.

Kevin · #4 03-09-2004, 04:04 AM

What kills me about Bush is look at the alternative.

Does anyone think that getting a Democrat (and a very liberal one at that) for President is going to actually slow down spending?

Hell naw.

Say what you want about Clinton but for all of his faults, he was a fairly conservative Democrat. He shrunk government spending and cut the deficit.

To Bush's credit, much of what he's done has been necessary for the war on terrorism.

Other stuff... well.. it just doesn't add up.

I'll say it again... It's a choice between Karl Marx or the Christian Taliban.

AOcutiePi4ever · #5 03-09-2004, 04:34 AM

i dont care much for foolish republicans.

aggieAXO · #6 03-09-2004, 04:41 AM

I am tired of republicans sticking their nose in my business and everyone elses. I say good riddance Bush.

Rudey · #7 03-09-2004, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aggieAXO
I am tired of republicans sticking their nose in my business and everyone elses. I say good riddance Bush.

You were never a Republican to begin with so please, this isn't a Republican or Bush bashing thread

-Rudey

#8 03-09-2004, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
You were never a Republican to begin with so please, this isn't a Republican or Bush bashing thread

-Rudey

true.

I spent some time on a libertarian site, mostly after reading one of ktsnake's previous posts and i really liked what i read.

I won't vote libertarian though, its a wasted vote. If the Libs could get someone with face value to run, it would be interesting though.

I agree with Bush's foriegn policy, but i'm having a hard time supporting the guy when he comes up with outlandish things like a marriage ammendment. For a party that is supposed to believe in less government intervention on our lives, they certainly don't legislate(or attempt to) that way.

I would rather sign on for 4 more years of Bush than have someone like John Kerry in office though. At least with Bush, you know where he stands. Kerry changes positions more often than Jenna Jameson. Hopefully if Nader does run he'll weed out the extreme hippie liberal vote and Bush will get re-elected.

Kitso
KS 361

Rudey · #9 03-09-2004, 12:07 PM

Easily agreed. I don't believe in much of the Libertarian/Ayn Rand stuff. Academically, it's considered...well that doesn't matter

I would really like to be able to vote another Republican onto the ballot like John M.

-Rudey

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Originally posted by AggieSigmaNu361
true.

I spent some time on a libertarian site, mostly after reading one of ktsnake's previous posts and i really liked what i read.

I won't vote libertarian though, its a wasted vote. If the Libs could get someone with face value to run, it would be interesting though.

I agree with Bush's foriegn policy, but i'm having a hard time supporting the guy when he comes up with outlandish things like a marriage ammendment. For a party that is supposed to believe in less government intervention on our lives, they certainly don't legislate(or attempt to) that way.

I would rather sign on for 4 more years of Bush than have someone like John Kerry in office though. At least with Bush, you know where he stands. Kerry changes positions more often than Jenna Jameson. Hopefully if Nader does run he'll weed out the extreme hippie liberal vote and Bush will get re-elected.

Kitso
KS 361

Kevin · #10 03-09-2004, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Easily agreed. I don't believe in much of the Libertarian/Ayn Rand stuff. Academically, it's considered...well that doesn't matter

I would really like to be able to vote another Republican onto the ballot like John M.

-Rudey

Objectivism is the biggity bomb.

You can disect it all you want. The message, however, is excellent. People need to learn to be dependant on themselves. Achievment shouldn't be looked down upon, etc.

I know Ayn Rand doesn't give a perfect argument and a real laissez-faire type economy would be very detrimental to the middle class, but her basic messages were pretty dead on in my opinion.

SATX*APhi · #11 03-09-2004, 12:29 PM

Label me confused as hell!

Rudey · #12 03-09-2004, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
Objectivism is the biggity bomb.

You can disect it all you want. The message, however, is excellent. People need to learn to be dependant on themselves. Achievment shouldn't be looked down upon, etc.

I know Ayn Rand doesn't give a perfect argument and a real laissez-faire type economy would be very detrimental to the middle class, but her basic messages were pretty dead on in my opinion.

Ummm this isn't a Libertarian thread and I have no desire to get into it. Ayn Rand is read by a selective few and ridiculed. If you want to start a thread on Libertarianism and I'm bored, I'll post on it.

-Rudey
--Stop ruining my thread Kevin!

Optimist Prime · #13 03-09-2004, 02:48 PM

I'm a registered republican because I voted for McCain in the first ever primary I could vote in.
I'm glad I'm not the only one freaked out by our lack of choices in this election. The Christian Right scares me, so I'm voting for any one except them. Politics makes my head hurt. From now, I'm a Federalist. Pure and simple. No other issues, just that I support Federalism in America and throughout the world.

Peace.

Peaches-n-Cream · #14 03-09-2004, 03:01 PM

The thing that scares me is the amount of money that President Bush is able to raise. I watched the news this morning and they said that he raised $3 million in one day.

He has over $100 million in his campaign chest. How can anyone compete with that? What ever happened to campaign finance reform?

And no, I'm not a Republican, but for almost a year I actually really liked Pres. Bush.

33girl · #15 03-09-2004, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Ummm this isn't a Libertarian thread and I have no desire to get into it. Ayn Rand is read by a selective few and ridiculed. If you want to start a thread on Libertarianism and I'm bored, I'll post on it.

But Ayn Rand had one freaky deaky sex life...doesn't that score her some points in your book?

Seriously Rudey, I totally know where you're coming from. I have a huge issue with the Republican party's endorsement of school vouchers and I think it would kill the American education system as we know it. But party leadership thinks it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

I'm seriously considering changing to Independent, if I didn't think my mom would roll over in her grave...although if she was alive today I don't know that she would still support Republican politics to the degree that she did. It's changed so much.