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02-16-2004, 03:46 AM
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stir the pot with me, y'all
what's so bad, democrats, about being/thinking republican?
it's 2:30am, i'm on lortabs.....just go with me here, ok?
actually, just curious if there are any stereotypical republican traits that you think are true/know are true and that you hate....is there any way we could possibly bring you dems to the good side?
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02-16-2004, 03:54 AM
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Re: stir the pot with me, y'all
The good side?????????
HA!
I have a friend who *was* a Shrub...er Bush supporter, who caucused for John Kerry this time....we gave her a lot of teasing about returning from the *dark* side!!!
I don't have enough space to list the things about the R party that I find objectionable.
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02-16-2004, 03:56 AM
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You Dems take it easy on her, she's heavily medicated.
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02-16-2004, 09:10 AM
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You Dems take it easy on her, she's heavily medicated.
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Yeah.. They need to come out with a government assistance program for people that are heavily mediated on loritab.
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02-16-2004, 10:47 AM
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Re: stir the pot with me, y'all
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what's so bad, democrats, about being/thinking republican?
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Nothing bad about thinking or being republican Mon. Just don't ask me to think like or be one.
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02-16-2004, 11:31 AM
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I'll bite.
I don't like the pro-life pro-death penalty agenda the party has adopted.
I don't like this tax cuts for everybody but the upper middle class.
I don't like this war.
I also don't like whichever of my asshat Republican friends signed me up to receive mailings from the Bush-Cheney campaign. I now have a PERSONALIZED photo of George and Laura.
But back to the issues (specifically George's early campaign stances):
I don't like drilling in ANWAR.
I don't like the fact that he doesn't want to extend hate-crime legislation to cover homosexuals as a protected class.
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02-16-2004, 11:53 AM
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you always think you're right all the time and don't even listen to what anyone else has to say about anything, and you come up with crazy stuff like we should convert everyone in Iraq and then say drugs are bad but then go to the Dr.s and get multiple perscriptions. Also, you like to quote each other. That gets annoying. The worst thing ever though was when everyone kept saying ditto.
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02-16-2004, 11:55 AM
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Also, republicans take way too long in the bathroom.
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02-16-2004, 12:21 PM
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The democrats are still reeling from the creation of a solid middle class here in the country. They are not recovering very well in terms of policy.
As far as being Republican I have little idea what it stands for anymore.
In theory Republicans should worship privacy and cherish the Bill of Rights and yet they are creating the strongest anti-privacy laws and killing the Bill of Rights in the wake of 9/11.
Government is growing bigger not smaller.
And they hit us with as much rhetoric or more than the people they despise for doing it, the Dems.
But I wouldn't say the DEms are much better.
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02-16-2004, 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
you always think you're right all the time and don't even listen to what anyone else has to say about anything, and you come up with crazy stuff like we should convert everyone in Iraq and then say drugs are bad but then go to the Dr.s and get multiple perscriptions. Also, you like to quote each other. That gets annoying. The worst thing ever though was when everyone kept saying ditto.
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am i ignorant for not knowing of what you speak? i think that statement can easily flow to any party....of course ppl think they're right, otherwise they would think they are wrong and change their mind to think they are at last in the valley of the correct.
i've got earp-speak running through my brain....
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I also don't like whichever of my asshat Republican friends signed me up to receive mailings from the Bush-Cheney campaign. I now have a PERSONALIZED photo of George and Laura.
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sorry, GP, but this made me laugh!  how funny is that.....i need to figure out how to do that to all my dem friends (most of my friends are dems...it's always fun)....so far i just signed them up on the GW campaign website.....ah yes, it's that amusing to me.  i expect some dirty democrat pay-back any day now.
the only reason i am asking is that it's all very interesting to me how there is such a huge diversity btwn the parties. for me, pro-life and pro-death have no need of explanation why we support both...both protect the lives of the innocent. as far as tax cuts....i think that will forever be in the works. i don't like the democratic thinking that the fed gov should handle more in my area than my local government. i am in favor of this war.....def think it did more good than bad. saddam being out of there justifies a lot to me. there are some things i think should be re-vamped (as far as gay rights go), but if you're a hard core repulican, right wing conservative blah-bi-de-blah, chances are you're gonna stand your ground on that one if you want the conservative vote. so...
btw, if any repubs wanna answer the same question just on the dem side, feel free. also, what do you not like about the party you are in?
write an essay of 300 words or less and pm it to me, lol...  i'm a million questions these days......
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02-16-2004, 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by James
The democrats are still reeling from the creation of a solid middle class here in the country. They are not recovering very well in terms of policy.
As far as being Republican I have little idea what it stands for anymore.
In theory Republicans should worship privacy and cherish the Bill of Rights and yet they are creating the strongest anti-privacy laws and killing the Bill of Rights in the wake of 9/11.
Government is growing bigger not smaller.
And they hit us with as much rhetoric or more than the people they despise for doing it, the Dems.
But I wouldn't say the DEms are much better.
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Actually, James, many members of the middle class tend strongly liberal, particularily towards the upper ends. This is a new group of "liberal elites," if you will. My advisor does a lot of specialization in this field.
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02-16-2004, 02:57 PM
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Re: stir the pot with me, y'all
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what's so bad, democrats, about being/thinking republican?
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What's so bad, either party, about being/thinking like neither? Seems to me that you should think about what's best for you, your family, etc. I find that usually borrows from both sides.
Conservatives and Liberals both drive me crazy when there is no desire to compromise. You can read that Republicans and Democrats as well.
I think a nice shade of gray is much more soothing than either black or white.
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02-16-2004, 03:07 PM
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The biggest issue I have is their idea of individual responsibility. I do think we all should take responsibility for our own actions, but not everything is under our control. We need the government to make sure that we all are even on the playing field.
I guess this is more of a conservative issue than a republican issue.
I will get into this deeper...but I have to go now.
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02-16-2004, 03:44 PM
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for me, pro-life and pro-death have no need of explanation why we support both...both protect the lives of the innocent.
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Not to start a debate in the middle of this thread (and if you feel it deserves its own thread then feel free to start one), but how does the death penalty protect the lives of the innocent? The people who have been murdered are already dead; the only thing the death penalty does is punish those who killed them. There have been studies that show that places with and without the death penalty have comparable murder rates, and if that's the case then the death penalty doesn't protect the lives of the innocent by deterring murder either. (I'm guessing that most murders are committed by people who are either crazy, extraordinarily desperate, or in the heat of the moment, in which case the threat of punishment no matter what it is probably won't prevent them from committing the crime.)
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02-16-2004, 03:48 PM
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Not to start a debate in the middle of this thread (and if you feel it deserves its own thread then feel free to start one), but how does the death penalty protect the lives of the innocent? The people who have been murdered are already dead; the only thing the death penalty does is punish those who killed them. There have been studies that show that places with and without the death penalty have comparable murder rates, and if that's the case then the death penalty doesn't protect the lives of the innocent by deterring murder either. (I'm guessing that most murders are committed by people who are either crazy, extraordinarily desperate, or in the heat of the moment, in which case the threat of punishment no matter what it is probably won't prevent them from committing the crime.)
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I just hae to respond to this - I really think the supporters of the death penalty need to read McCleskey v. Kemp and pay special attention to the Baldus study - the death penalty is given disproportionately based on race.
The most likely to be convicted are those who killed whites. For a party that claims to not like affirmative action, they sure enjoy it here.
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