Califonia Nationals

BabyP · #1 02-15-2004, 11:52 PM

I think Cali has strict policies and makes it hard for nationals to set up a chapter in cali, I found that Big Nationals such as Tri-Sigmas, Phi Mu, etc only have one chapter in Cali. the popular national in Cali is Delta Gamma and Sigma Kappa. I wonder why. Also we are trying to become a chapter of a national, wow they said we cant because "The procedure calls for all of our current
Panhellenic chapters to be at or above the campus chapter total for a period of three years. That has not been the case for a number of years on our campus."

#2 02-16-2004, 12:02 AM

FYI just in case you didn't know...there are sororities within the NPC that have chapters in Canada and one sorority that has a chapter in Europe, thus making those organizations INTERnational.

It's not about state policies. Campuses will not expand if there is no room or no need to expand. Organizations will not put in the time and effort for expansion if that's the case. It's as simple as that.

GeekyPenguin · #3 02-16-2004, 12:03 AM

That's really not true at all - I believe we have something like 13 chapters in California that are active, and Alpha Phi has more than us.

As for the total - that is a Panhellenic policy that is followed everywhere. It has nothing to do with what state you're in.

Janerz222 · #4 02-16-2004, 12:32 AM

Kappa Alpha Theta has 16 active college chapters in California currently.

I was browsing the National Panhellenic Conference (NPC) website to see if there were any references you could read about expansion policies but couldn't quickly find anything.

Here's some info from Theta's site that might be informative:

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The extension committee of the National Panhellenic Conference serves as a clearinghouse for colleges, Panhellenics, and individual fraternities in the field of extension. All NPC groups have agreed upon fair and orderly extension procedures, which are directed by the NPC extension committee.

The extension committee of NPC will assist any campus wishing to add an NPC sorority chapter or establish a Panhellenic system. Any individual, college Panhellenic, or local sorority needing information should contact NPC.

(Of course, this info just pertains to NPC groups, which may or may not be what you're looking for! Sorry if my assumption was presumptious.)

Glitter650 · #5 02-16-2004, 02:24 AM

Phi Sigma Sigma has I think 10 chapters here in Cali... I actually don't think there's one sorority that has a statewide popularity here in Cali... really ( and I've gone to school in both So Cal and Nor Cal) except to say that I think Alpha Phi has a very strong western presence ( IE the Pac 10 schools) but to say that they are more "popular" I think is an error. I think the reason that Tri Sigma and Phi Mu probably don't have many chapters here in Cali is because they have a strong base in the south and they are able to have more help from alum in those areas to take care of all the work it takes to expand, simple as that, it's not like us cali people just decided we dont' want Phi Mu in our state... actually Tri Sigma had a chapter on my campus that closed about three years ago...

bruinaphi · #6 02-16-2004, 02:26 AM

Alpha Phi has 22 active chapters in California, more than any other NPC group last time I checked.

Expansion is based on NPC rules and local college panhellenic bylaws.

BabyP · #7 02-16-2004, 03:58 AM

they said we cant because "The procedure calls for all of our current Panhellenic chapters to be at or above the campus chapter total for a period of three years. That has not been the case for a number of years on our campus."

Can anyone explain this to me, I asked a few greek friends of mine and they said diff things.....

GeekyPenguin · #8 02-16-2004, 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by BabyP
they said we cant because "The procedure calls for all of our current Panhellenic chapters to be at or above the campus chapter total for a period of three years. That has not been the case for a number of years on our campus."

Can anyone explain this to me, I asked a few greek friends of mine and they said diff things.....

All the sororites in Panhellenic at your school have to be at total for three years. Say your school has Gamma Phi Beta, Alpha Phi, and Delta Delta Delta, and total is 90. All three of those sororities have to have 90 members for three ears in a row in order for expansion to occur.

kddani · #9 02-16-2004, 08:44 AM

and btw, I don't think anyone's mentioned, that policy is pretty much the same everywhere, it has nothing to do with the state (there is no governing body state-wise of sororities) or even national/international sororities. It's a policy adopted by the campus panhellenics that's pretty much the same everywhere. It's not really productive to bring in a new group when other groups are struggling.

33girl · #10 02-16-2004, 12:10 PM

I wouldn't call Tri-Sigma or Phi Mu "big" nationals, they're more medium sized (that is not a slam, just a fact - I am in a small national) so those really aren't groups to judge by. Chi O, ZTA and DZ have the largest number of chapters.

The fact is that Delta Gamma has had chapters there for a long time, so they have lots of alumnae, so if they want to start a new chapter there they have lots of support. My sorority only has one alum chapter there and I think most of them are over 60. It's not that we don't want to go there, it's that we wouldn't have much alum support or name recognition.

Here was a discussion on this:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...threadid=29876

#11 02-16-2004, 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
That's really not true at all - I believe we have something like 13 chapters in California that are active, and Alpha Phi has more than us.

As for the total - that is a Panhellenic policy that is followed everywhere. It has nothing to do with what state you're in.

Alpha Phi has 22 coll chapters in California

#12 02-16-2004, 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by cutiepatootie
Alpha Phi has 22 coll chapters in California

see what happens when you dont scrolll the way down the thread ... you see your sister has already responded....heheheh

chideltjen · #13 02-16-2004, 06:26 PM

sac state won't allow more nationals on campus until the current nationals get to house total. there are one or two sororities below total.
we got the same excuse when we tried to colonize a really long time ago. the option left for us was to "block rush" with the group in question and essentially become that house. the house didn't want to do that so it was a no go. No problem tho... we are doing fine as an affiliated local sorority. and the house in question is growing and stronger.

but the school won't bring on another national for 'competition' if the current houses have issues among each other with getting numbers.

BabyP · #14 02-16-2004, 06:56 PM

the adviser said something about being afflicated with Panhellic but what does that mean? What is the benefits and disadvantages when compared to staying local.........

SmartBlondeGPhB · #15 02-16-2004, 07:23 PM

If I'm understanding you correctly, it doesn't have anything to do with remaining local or not (unless the advisor has other ideas). It sounds like it has to do with joining the College Panhellenic on your campus, prbably as an associate member. I believe some CPH's allow the locals to be involved in some way but we didn't have locals on my campus so I'm not sure how it works.