Gastric Bypass surgery

James · #1 07-22-2004, 10:03 PM

Ok this is becoming frighteningly common. I have spoken with many women that have had it.

Now someone please enlighten me, basically it makes your stomache really small right?

Which forces you to eat very little, which results in eight loss?

Ok, couldn't we skip the majorly invasive procedure and just eat very little?

Ultimately its a matter of calories isn't it?

FiReKraCkEr · #2 07-22-2004, 10:08 PM

James, this is a very sensitive topic...

One of my closest friends is going to get this done soon and my heart goes out to her.

The thing is, she eats right and excersizes everyday! However she just can't lose the weight. Seriously, this girl can run 2 miles and not even break a sweat.

This is her last resort. For most people that's what it is...

sugar and spice · #3 07-22-2004, 10:08 PM

The majority of people out there don't feel like they have that kind of willpower. If you're morbidly obese (which you probably are if you're having gastric bypass), chances are that you've spent a lifetime setting up bad eating habits and it will be hard to overcome them without physical change.

By making the stomach so small, it obviously reduces the physical sensation of hunger and the urge to eat . . . not to mention the fact that, if you eat too much for the stomach to process at once, you'll throw up.

Rudey · #4 07-22-2004, 10:10 PM

Does this get rid of deep tissue fat? I thought that only left through exercise and it was that which was the cause of health concerns and not cosmetic.

-Rudey

James · #5 07-22-2004, 10:20 PM

In order to make more people eligible for this procedure there is like a point system also that can lead to the GB surgery.

I know at least one lady who wasn't morbidly obese but had enough "points" to allow her to have the surgery.

I believe the points are based around reported symptoms, for example trouble breathing during exertion.

Its also a way that non-morbidly obese women might be able to get their insurance to pay for basically cosmetic weight loss.

IowaStatePhiPsi · #6 07-22-2004, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by James
Ok this is becoming frighteningly common. I have spoken with many women that have had it.

Now someone please enlighten me, basically it makes your stomache really small right?

Which forces you to eat very little, which results in eight loss?

Ok, couldn't we skip the majorly invasive procedure and just eat very little?

Ultimately its a matter of calories isn't it?

TheEpitome1920 · #7 07-22-2004, 10:28 PM

A Soror had this surgery 3 years ago and died of complications.

James · #8 07-22-2004, 10:29 PM

I am truly sorry.

This is kind of what i meant, this is not a joke procedure like getting your eyes lifted.

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Originally posted by TheEpitome1920
A Soror had this surgery 3 years ago and died of complications.

Peaches-n-Cream · #9 07-22-2004, 10:30 PM

My friend who had gastric bypass surgery, she had been battling her weight since early childhood. She had tried everything, and this was a last resort as Firecracker said. She had it done almost three years ago. There was a concern that her weight problems could result in heart disease and diabetes in a few years. Her father had had a heart attack and triple bypass so there was a family history. She has since had surgery and lost the weight. It definitely worked, but there are also lifestyle changes that she needed to incorporate into her life as well. She could only eat two tablespoons of food at a time for the first few weeks.

There was a case recently in New York of a patient dying during the surgery so it isn't risk free. About 1% of patients die.

TheEpitome1920 I am very sorry about the Soror.

TheEpitome1920 · #10 07-22-2004, 10:34 PM

Thanks. And what made it worse was that she had just gotten married about 7 months prior to having the surgery. I guess if people feel its really their only option then so be it. Any surgery is risky.

honeychile · #11 07-22-2004, 10:42 PM

I've known at LEAST 10-12 men and women who have had a gastric bypass in some form in the past few years. In the early stages, one had to be at least 100 pounds overweight, now it's a matter of BMI (body mass index). That means someone can be under 200 pounds, but if their height to weight ratio is off, they are still eligible for the surgery.

There are several different types of this surgery, and I'd be lying if I went into detail of each one, because I don't know about the style/name of each type. I do know that the bypass basically makes the stomach into a walnut-size pouch or bypasses it completely. After the surgery, the patient cannot ever drink soda pop, most sugars, and certain fats without having intense pain. In the early days, eating would cause the staples to come undone, wreaking havoc on the digestive system.

Instead of mocking someone desperate enough to have this surgery, why not work on banning soda pop, candy & snack machines at schools - when this problem starts for most people? Or campaign against the subliminal messages in the multitude of commercials that entice people to eat? Or, best yet, realize that "there but for the grace of God goes I"?

James · #12 07-22-2004, 10:50 PM

Are we mocking them dahlin'? I think we might just be pointing out that its a risky surgery that is becoming marketed much more aggressively. Its a real money maker for the docs.

And that ultimately its major resuly is enforced calorie restriction.

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Originally posted by honeychile
I've known at LEAST 10-12 men and women who have had a gastric bypass in some form in the past few years. In the early stages, one had to be at least 100 pounds overweight, now it's a matter of BMI (body mass index). That means someone can be under 200 pounds, but if their height to weight ratio is off, they are still eligible for the surgery.

There are several different types of this surgery, and I'd be lying if I went into detail of each one, because I don't know about the style/name of each type. I do know that the bypass basically makes the stomach into a walnut-size pouch or bypasses it completely. After the surgery, the patient cannot ever drink soda pop, most sugars, and certain fats without having intense pain. In the early days, eating would cause the staples to come undone, wreaking havoc on the digestive system.

Instead of mocking someone desperate enough to have this surgery, why not work on banning soda pop, candy & snack machines at schools - when this problem starts for most people? Or campaign against the subliminal messages in the multitude of commercials that entice people to eat? Or, best yet, realize that "there but for the grace of God goes I"?

GeekyPenguin · #13 07-22-2004, 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
Instead of mocking someone desperate enough to have this surgery, why not work on banning soda pop, candy & snack machines at schools - when this problem starts for most people? Or campaign against the subliminal messages in the multitude of commercials that entice people to eat? Or, best yet, realize that "there but for the grace of God goes I"?

110.

They had to lower it.

honeychile · #14 07-22-2004, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by James
Are we mocking them dahlin'? I think we might just be pointing out that its a risky surgery that is becoming marketed much more aggressively. Its a real money maker for the docs.

And that ultimately its major resuly is enforced calorie restriction.

Absoutely! There is no such thing as a perfect surgery; there's always a risk - and sadly, TheEpitome's Soror (may she rest in peace) proves that.

I agree that it's being marketed incorrectly, like the end-all cure-all, becoming all too similar to ambulance chasers.

I just like any chance to put down the mass use of snack or soda pop machines in schools!

Xylochick216 · #15 07-22-2004, 11:54 PM

I know someone who had it done a few years ago. He looks better than he did, but not by much. He still eats fried and fatty foods, smokes, doesn't exercise, and drinks. Why go through all that pain and suffering of surgery if you're not going to change your habits? He's still overweight by a lot.