GLOs that AREN'T for life

kddani · #1 12-06-2003, 11:36 AM

What GLO's don't have lifetime membership?

Phi Alpha Delta Law Fraternity, for instance, is primarily group fro those in law school. Members who join in law school are members for life.

BUT, Phi Alpha Delta also has pre-law chapters, which are based less on the brotherhood of practicing law but more on preparing for law school. Members who join at the pre-law level are NOT members for life. Once they graduate, their ties to Phi Alpha Delta pretty much cease. They're perfectly free to join at the law school level and then will be members for life.

Any other orgs do something similar, or that dont' have lifetime membership?

decadence · #2 12-06-2003, 11:56 AM

As I understand it, pre-law members will be pre-law alumni. Which... is different, presently, from being a graduated member of a law school chapter (thus alumni even if not a member of an alumni chapter as far as I know).
The whole issue is somewhat up in the air (by this I mean it has been discussed/brought up within the organization in the past) and it has been posited that the policy be changed - it would be brought up on the floor of the national (Law) convention and be voted upon. This is what I learnt from talking with a member of the Executive Office of said organization. I'm sure it is a very complex issue with lots of ramifications and differing opinions involved.

- Richard.

N.B. I AM NOT A MEMBER OF PHI ALPHA DELTA.

TigerLilly · #3 12-06-2003, 12:08 PM

Depends on what you mean by "member for life". There's that freshman honorary society...Alpha Lamda Delta?...in which, at least from what I've heard, any connection with the org ends after a member's freshman year in college. They might be members for life on paper, but it's not like you can DO anything with the membership besides put it on a resume.
(That's why I didn't join. Didn't feel like paying money to get nothing more than a certificate and another set of greek letters to string after my name.)

kddani · #4 12-06-2003, 12:18 PM

Thanks for the thoughts, decadence, that's something that would be more appropriately discussed in the Phi Alpha Delta forum or listserv. But I was interested in finding out about other organizations.

I guess it's hard to define "for life". We all consider ourselves members "for life" of our "main" GLO (i.e. for myself KD, for others their national, local, etc.). I guess wondering if there wasn't a structured membership after the term of particpating during undergrad was up.

It's also I guess what YOU consider it. For instance, Phi Eta Sigma (freshman honorary)... I don't even get junk mail from them

Which i'm not complaining about.

Kevin · #5 12-06-2003, 12:20 PM

I think they're all "for life". It's just that for life means different things to different people. You'll always be a Phi Alpha Delta, however, there isn't as much opportunity for participation after graduation. My father has a Phi Alpha Delta membership certificate hanging in his office. Doesn't mean he's heard anything form him since he graduated law school in '69.

Traditional GLO's offer alums more opportunity for participation after their undergrad years (and there's more necessity for it).

decadence · #6 12-06-2003, 12:26 PM

You're welcome kddani. Just replying to paragraph three of your post, and saying graduated pre-law members were not nothing to the org. unless and until they joined a chapter at a law school. They do have a different status, which is different from no status. Hope it helped.

sairose · #7 12-06-2003, 01:18 PM

I agree with those of you who say you're a member for life of any GLO, but it's how much you'll be able to participate after college that varies.

For instance, Sigma Alpha Iota currently has around 120 alumnae chapters. And our alumnae chapters are just as active as the college chapters, which is wonderful, because I like knowing I'll be able to be an active SAI for the rest of my life.

However, I know that Tau Beta Sigma does not have alumni chapters or anything. I was talking to one of the sisters here who says you can pay for life membership, but there's not really much opportunity for participation after graduation.

Tom Earp · #8 12-06-2003, 07:14 PM

Yes, We all promote being a Greek for life!

But the problem is, a few or many do not beleive in that!

I think, that we as Social Glos try Harder to Promote that than anyothers

Many who just Graduate cannot affrord to do and feel embaresed and do not participate until you can get them back to a function! Guess what, they have FUN!

BLUTANG · #9 12-07-2003, 01:34 AM

Hey SAIrose,

Tau Beta Sigma has a National Alumni Association with our Brother fraternity, Kappa Kappa Psi. Additionally, alumni associations can be formed at the chapter level, district level, or based on geographic location.

This is a separate issue from Life Membership in the Sorority. If your friend has any questions, I'm available to discuss things with her!

Yours in MUSIC,
Blu

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Originally posted by sairose
However, I know that Tau Beta Sigma does not have alumni chapters or anything. I was talking to one of the sisters here who says you can pay for life membership, but there's not really much opportunity for participation after graduation.

ThetaPrincess24 · #10 12-07-2003, 11:58 AM

For Alpha Kappa Psi Business Fraternity, you're not considered a "lifetime member" untill you have donated a total of $500 or more to the national fraternity, which really isnt a hard thing to do over the course of a few years, however like any GLO with a closed ritual (members only) you may not join another business fraternity after joining AKPsi.

For Alpha Phi Omega Service Fraternity to be a lifetime member there is a one time fee to pay. If you pay it before you graduate as an undergrad it's one fee(the cheaper one), and if you pay the fee after you graduate then it's a different, more expensive fee. Why the fee's vary I do not know.

As for Theta, once you are initiated and remain in good standing you're a lifetime member.

My dad is a Sigma Chi. I'm not sure about specifics so I encourage other Sigma Chi here to correct me if I'm wrong, but my mother told me when my brother was born (before my birth),or when they knew it was going to be a son, my dad did something with Sigma Chi nationals to be a lifetime member and started getting all this Sigma Chi stuff sent to their house etc.(which he still receives today) because he wanted a legacy. However losing my brother three days after his birth is still very sensitive to my mother and my father eventhough 26 years have passed, so I feel bad bringing the whole issue up to my dad (the only thing that makes him cry). So if any Sigma Chi's on GC would like to enlighten or correct me if I'm wrong please do

Tom Earp · #11 12-07-2003, 12:24 PM

Mary what a sad story even after these many years.

While I can only speak for LXA, I am almost certain that all NIC Fraternitys are very similar.

Once you are Initiated, you are then a member for life.

I and all Brothers receive our International Magazine for life.

We as a Fraternity run the day to day with dues from the actives and money donated to the Internaional by the Alums goes toward the Educational Fund for scholarships.

ChaosDST · #12 12-07-2003, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
What GLO's don't have lifetime membership?

Phi Alpha Delta Law Fraternity, for instance, is primarily group fro those in law school. Members who join in law school are members for life.

BUT, Phi Alpha Delta also has pre-law chapters, which are based less on the brotherhood of practicing law but more on preparing for law school. Members who join at the pre-law level are NOT members for life. Once they graduate, their ties to Phi Alpha Delta pretty much cease. They're perfectly free to join at the law school level and then will be members for life.

Any other orgs do something similar, or that dont' have lifetime membership?

I was a member of Phi Alpha Delta when I was a sophomore in '96. Correct, my membership faded when I graduated (it really faded once I realized I didn't like the pre-law thing).

I was also a member a criminal justice fraternity in '99-00 when I was getting my masters. I could maintain ties with them, if I chose.

But, when you say "GLOs," I'm thinking more along the lines of social "GLOs." Do you all just lump every organization together, simply because they have Greek letters?

sairose · #13 12-07-2003, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by BLUTANG
Hey SAIrose,

Tau Beta Sigma has a National Alumni Association with our Brother fraternity, Kappa Kappa Psi. Additionally, alumni associations can be formed at the chapter level, district level, or based on geographic location.

This is a separate issue from Life Membership in the Sorority. If your friend has any questions, I'm available to discuss things with her!

Yours in MUSIC,
Blu

Oh, so they do have alumni chapters? Or the like? Awesome! Apparently she was misinformed. I know that there isn't one here, but I will definately pass that along!

Music greek love,
Allie

AOIIsilver · #14 12-07-2003, 11:42 PM

Actually, one can remain active with Alpha Lambda Delta as long as you like, and membership has its benefits! I got a national ALD fellowship for graduate school, and I have been a faculty advisor for the group. I have also done public service projects with my ALD chapter of initiation.

Silver

decadence · #15 12-08-2003, 07:05 AM

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Originally posted by ChaosDST: But, when you say "GLOs," I'm thinking more along the lines of social "GLOs." Do you all just lump every organization together, simply because they have Greek letters?

That can get complex. You can say GLOs based on greek letters which excludes "Acacia, Farmhouse and Triangle"? Or member of the most likely umbrella body e.g. NIC which leaves out the social fraternity which left the NIC a while back - sorry I forget the name. Or there's APO which is in a different category. Or, orgs like Phi Mu Alpha which have changed status (Title IX) and been professional and social and so at least at one point were in different categories. (I think that's the right org). But that's more discussed on this old thread.