Politics and Homosexuals: Should the NJ Gov Have Resigned?

[Sincere]

What do you think of George Bush's stance on "The Cuba Controversy?" Personally, I think that he's using his next ploy of tactics to solicit the votes of the ever growing Cuban American population (he gave a speech today on this topic in Miami). I think that it's an outrage that he feels that he needs to suggest declaring war on Cuba, because they do not follow the same political outline as America, especially at this time! Has he forgotten that we are at war in Afghanistan and Pakistan? It makes me think that his chosen wife is just a political tactic for him to be able to relate to the Cuban people. He's also saying that Cuba must release all political prisoners. Can you believe this notion? What about all of the political prisoners here in America ... the black panthers that are still in jail, or worse those political activist he can't even have a trial, because they were apart of the Black Panther Party.

This just in! Jeb is running for Governor again. No wonder Sir President is so adamant about the foreign policy in regard to Cuba. The Florida demographics is such that if you can secure the Hispanic vote, then you are likely to win the election. We all know who most of the Hispanics are in Florida Cubans...

[Little32]

George Bush said that as a show of good faith, Castro must allow Cuba to have a fair election. LOL LOL LOL, still laughing about that one.

[straightBOS]

The sad part is, Cubans on the whole were really worse off BEFORE the Revolution.

If we must make war with every country that we do not like, we invite MORE TERROR not less. This is not the time to talk war, even for political manipulations becuase what the leader of the free world says has a decided impact on the entire world. I can't understand what is going on nowadays. Maybe I'm too young to remember the days when presidents were not expected to exercise tact and better judgement, but in 2002, we need to move away from a Cold War, especially since almost every country--not just 2 have the means to destroy is all.

It seems that this presidency has served to alienate us on so many fronts that I am afraid that even our "Allies" have little faith in the word of America. And, while Bush, still speaks for us,w e will all feel the pain of the mistrust and anger he chooses to stir up.

First the Convention on Race, then the Missle Defense, Wanting to Invade Iraq and Sudan, etc. now we want to bother Cuba.

Will we ever have a day when we deal with America's own self-inflicted wounds?

[AKA_Monet]

This is the last of the Men that control the "powers that be..."

Their last hurrah...

Prophecies are being fulfilled--just read...

The warmongering that is going on is only birthpangs for a the new "Age of the Goddess" according to Tantric belief... And personally, I'd rather be doing the tantra than be worried about war... I didn't invoke the Ibo's fire god "Dambala"... So, why should I care about spiritless or spiritually foul beings...

Dubya made is chitty bed, he needs to wallow in it, lie about it and die...

[CkretCrush8]

can we say poor judgment !

[CountryGurl]

Tens of thousands of Cubans rallied Monday, as Fidel Castro warned President Bush against launching a military attack on Cuba, saying it would provoke a mass exodus and an all-out ground war..."You would never be able to win that war," the Cuban leader said. "Here you will not find a divided people"...




http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...uba_us_protest


How many wars can we fight at once?

[abaici]

If history has taught us nothing, it has taught us the America should leave Cuba alone. Greater men have tried and failed to bring down Castro. GIVE IT UP JR!!

[AKA2D '91]

Should any politician resign or be forced to step down from a position if he is gay? Or was the NJ Governor under fire because he was on the "DL"? Or about to face possible charges for sexual harrassment?

[WenD08]

1. no, sexual orientation is not a reason to force someone out of office.

2. if he's under fire, i would think it's from his wife (my goodness, she and Ariana Huffington have lots to share).

3. definitely, the sugar-honey-iced tea was about to hit the fan and he had to save face.

my opinions only

[Ivy2Love]

Originally posted by AKA2D '91
Should any politician resign or be forced to step down from a position if he is gay? Or was the NJ Governor under fire because he was on the "DL"? Or about to face possible charges for sexual harrassment?

As a citizen his sexual orientation would not matter to me. BUT politicos live and die by their reputations, and that of their fellow partymembers. The leading Democrats would have found a way to get him out of office for fear of ruining chances of others in upcoming elections.

I dont know enough about the sexual harassment charges to give an opinion. Did the ex-lover actually sue? I figure he will end up missing very soon, if he isn't already.

[TonyB06]

Originally posted by AKA2D '91
Should any politician resign or be forced to step down from a position if he is gay? Or was the NJ Governor under fire because he was on the "DL"? Or about to face possible charges for sexual harrassment?

1. I think it depends on the constituent’s point of view. How they felt, if at all, the candidate’s “status” would impact his/her policy positions. For some voters it’ll be a bigger deal than for others.

2. I think the NJ gov. deftly switched the issue. He's not resigning because he's homosexual; the issue is his alleged misuse of power, apparently appointing his "boy" to several positions none of which he was qualified for.

His speech was calculated to do just what it did. The "gay American" line, which captured a lot of news headlines, I think was designed to have people see him as a sort of victim, not someone who may have used questionable, if not criminal political judgement.

[aopirose]

Originally posted by TonyB06
1. I think it depends on the constituent’s point of view. How they felt, if at all, the candidate’s “status” would impact his/her policy positions. For some voters it’ll be a bigger deal than for others.

2. I think the NJ gov. deftly switched the issue. He's not resigning because he's homosexual; the issue is his alleged misuse of power, apparently appointing his "boy" to several positions none of which he was qualified for.

His speech was calculated to do just what it did. The "gay American" line, which captured a lot of news headlines, I think was designed to have people see him as a sort of victim, not someone who may have used questionable, if not criminal political judgement.

I agree with TonyB. My problems with McGreevey are adultery and misuse of power.

[Paradise359]

Originally posted by TonyB06
1. I think it depends on the constituent’s point of view. How they felt, if at all, the candidate’s “status” would impact his/her policy positions. For some voters it’ll be a bigger deal than for others.

2. I think the NJ gov. deftly switched the issue. He's not resigning because he's homosexual; the issue is his alleged misuse of power, apparently appointing his "boy" to several positions none of which he was qualified for.

His speech was calculated to do just what it did. The "gay American" line, which captured a lot of news headlines, I think was designed to have people see him as a sort of victim, not someone who may have used questionable, if not criminal political judgement.

I agree with TonyB06. I think that as the shock is wearing off about this whole shebang, folks are realizing that this has not a thing to do with hime being gay. He is trying to step down before the ish hits the fan. He was doing some stuff he wasn't supposed to be doing. He thinks he's slick in playing the poor gay, misunderstood victim. He is not the first openly gay governor. There are others currently serving their states just fine.

[Ivy2Love]

Originally posted by Paradise359
He thinks he's slick in playing the poor gay, misunderstood victim. He is not the first openly gay governor. There are others currently serving their states just fine.

Who and where are they? I didn't realize that any governor -- sitting or former -- was out of the closet. Perhaps I missed that headline.

[Paradise359]

Originally posted by Ivy2Love
Who and where are they? I didn't realize that any governor -- sitting or former -- was out of the closet. Perhaps I missed that headline.

My bad You're right Soror. He is the first OPENLY gay governor. Not the first politician of course