Lord of the Rings

AXPGoBot · #1 07-25-2003, 09:26 AM

Don't know about anyone else, but I am a HUGE fan, of Lord of the Rings. I've been enjoying the books since before high school when I was just a pre-pubesent loser. Just wanted to see if anyone else out there is a fan of the books or the movies... maybe get a little discussion going on... I don't know...

Ok, so give me a break, I'm at work and BORED AS HELL!

::whew::

Schmeer · #2 07-25-2003, 10:58 AM

Yes...I LOVE the lord of the rings...call me a dork or a geek or whatever because thats what my friend do but I don't care. I think they are great. I am can't wait to get the Two Towers DVD either or see the Return of the King.

I am also thinking of reading the Silmarillon

JohnsDGsweethrt · #3 07-25-2003, 11:07 AM

I love the Lord of the Rings too. My husband dragged me to the first one and I thought the movie would end with him throwing the ring into the volcano. LOL. After 2 hours I thought with this amount of detail this movie will be the longest ever! LOL When the movie ended my husband said he doesn't throw it in until the 3rd one! LOL I was like oh no! But when the second one came out I think I was more excited to see it than him! I already have the DVD pre-ordered and I think it was better than the 1st one which was wonderful!

AXPGoBot · #4 07-25-2003, 11:12 AM

Definitely go for reading the Silmarillian. It's such a great story, deals with creation and what not, a very interesting twist on things too.

It's also cool to get to see the shaping of this world and as improtant as the Ring and Sauron and all that seems, Sauron was only but a servant for Morgoth and a small story in the long sad history of Middle Earth.

It's very overwhelming.

The book tends to read like the Bible or a history book... and it's a bit slow at parts, but if you can get past that then it's an awesome story.

Can't wait for ROTK either... I just know I'm gonna ball my eyes out at a "certain point." Just reading the book the way Tolkien describes it gets me choaked up stilll sometimes.

(Ok, dork alert over...)

KappaKittyCat · #5 07-25-2003, 11:59 AM

Bryan, don't worry about sounding like a dork. I cry at strategic points whenever I read the trilogy.

I love The Silmarillan and Lost Tales. They make the rest of the books make so much more sense.

Was anybody else irritated at certain major plot changes in the Two Towers movie? I mean, come on! The elves didn't show up to defend Helm's Deep, and more importantly, Faramir never dragged Frodo to Osgiliath. Both Faramir and Boromir were tempted by the ring, but Faramir could let go, and that's why he's worthy to rule.

Excuse the girl moment, but I just downloaded the ROTK wallpaper and I keep getting lost in Aragorn's beautiful blue eyes.

Yummy.

AXPGoBot · #6 07-25-2003, 12:04 PM

I totally agree w/ you KappaKitty... Elves at Helm's Deep is a bigger deal than you would think... it was called "the Last Alliance" back in the day for a reason... never again would Elves and Men fight together in such a fashion. I think the liberty taken there would really piss Tolkien off had he been alive today.

Also, I think the Faramir change was shocking... when I first saw the movie, I was like WTF?!

The Aragorn almost dying thing pissed me off too... it was a waste of about half an hour that could've been used to include more of the actual Two Towers material into the film.

Whatever, ROTK I hear is going to be AMAZING. Can't wait

KappaKittyCat · #7 07-25-2003, 12:54 PM

I know! Aragorn wasn't lost in the battle with the Uruk-hai. He didn't fall off of any cliff or drown in any river. The ensuing melodrama wasn't in the book. However, I don't think that the addition of Arwen and Eowyn in this movie was over the top at all. It helped to have some more character development from them. The way I see it is that, in the books, Tolkien glosses over a very important point, which is that Arwen is giving up her immortality to be with Aragorn. Elrond does not want her to do so, and both he and Galadrial (Arwen's grandmother) caution Aragorn against pursuing their relationship because of this. They try to get him to give her up, but she won't give him up. It didn't really hit me about the whole immortality thing until the third or fourth time I read the books, and then I started crying. I think that adding this stuff isn't really over the top, as they're just expanding on Tolkien's subtext. It will help explain what happens in the end, when Arwen gives her place on the ship to Frodo. I do, however, think that they could have glossed over the Aragorn-in-dream-state stuff and actually included things that are in the book, like the meeting at Orthanc and the encouter with Shelob at Cirith Ungol.

Yes. Last Alliance. Final. Done. Enough. Not to mention that it makes the Rohirrim look like weaklings who can't defend themselves.

Faramir... grr. There's supposed to be the instant trust between Faramir and Frodo, and that doesn't happen at all. In the movie, it's Sam who gets Faramir to release Frodo, and that's just wrong. Sam has a part to play, but it comes later.

I must add that my favorite part in FOTR is the Look that Elrond gets on his face when Merry and Pippin come running into the Council. I know that it doesn't happen like that in the book, but the Look is priceless. I have watched that scene over and over 'cuz it's so great.