HELL no....

33girl · #1 07-02-2003, 10:59 AM

http://www.post-gazette.com/localnew...cops0702p1.asp

I don't know about anyone else's campus police, but in my experience the Pubic Safety doofuses (doofi?) are the LAST people I would want trying to control the ALF parade or a bar fight. Once I move off campus, that's MY apartment, not the school's. What I do there is my business.

texas*princess · #2 07-02-2003, 11:07 AM

lol @ "doofi"

back to the topic at hand...

that *is* pretty wild. i'll have to agree that the university police dept. is not that wonderful (at least it was at my old school.. i haven't had any experiences with them here.)

i'm glad that isn't going into effect at my old school because then the town would be helpless! those police officers would take a cool 30 MINUTES to unlock a dormitory building at 1 AM and left me outside scared because it was all dark outside. they do nothing more that write out parking violations and unlock buildings... i can't imagine them handling a bar fight in that town! LOL

aephi alum · #3 07-02-2003, 11:16 AM

Hmm... I don't know.

Maybe my take on this is a little different because my school actually has a decent campus police force (or at least, it was decent when I was there). To join the force, you had to have been a "regular" cop for several years. They carry guns, arrest people, and all that good stuff.

The article mentioned that some schools have an "emergency aid agreement" that allows campus police to respond to emergency calls from off campus. Now that would be a good idea. If I'm in my apartment right down the street from CP HQ and somebody breaks in and I call 911, I want a cop there NOW - I don't want to wait 10 minutes for a city cop to turn up while the CPs sit around playing cards because they aren't allowed to respond.

But letting CPs routinely patrol and do crowd control and such off campus, I think, is overstepping the bounds. That's city jurisdiction.

LeslieAGD · #4 07-02-2003, 11:20 AM

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Under legislation that's headed for Gov. Ed Rendell's desk, though, campus police would have the power to respond to incidents involving their students at bars in town or apartments near campus

Our campus police already do this; however, our two most popular bar hangouts are practically on campus because they are right across the street.

Eirene_DGP · #5 07-02-2003, 01:54 PM

I think this is just new to PA because my alma mater already had this in place. Mainly because our school was on the edge of town. As a matter of fact, the EMTs lived on our campus that served the surrounding area. So basically if something happened at your off-campus apt across the street, you would be in trouble if you were waiting on the regular police to arrive.

PSK480 · #6 07-02-2003, 01:55 PM

33girl: you act like Pubic Safely actually would respond. They're too busy hanging out at 7-eleven all the time, or driving around writing tickets and booting cars. The can't even control noise, underage drinking, or marijuana use in the dorms, they deffinately couldn't do anything off campus. Good old Clarion Pubic Safely, to serve parking tickets and protect their own asses.

GMUBunny · #7 07-02-2003, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by PSK480
33girl: you act like Pubic Safely actually would respond. They're too busy hanging out at 7-eleven all the time, or driving around writing tickets and booting cars. The can't even control noise, underage drinking, or marijuana use in the dorms, they deffinately couldn't do anything off campus. Good old Clarion Pubic Safely, to serve parking tickets and protect their own asses.

It's not just Clarion Public Safety... add Fairfax County/GMU to that list!!!

madmax · #8 07-03-2003, 02:43 PM

If this law was really about safety I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I don't think it is about safety. I think the schools simply want more control over students when they are off campus. I think they are going to use this law to enforce university policy when the intent is to improve safety.

Does anyone remember the incident at Carnegie Mellon where the campus cops staged a fake firedrill so they could search the Sigma Nu house?

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...light=carnegie

Most of the police officers at those schools are just glorified metermaids. Some of those depts don't even carry guns.