CAN A PERSON STILL BE ACTIVE IF..............

[prettygyrl]

I was wondering........ I know of some people who crossed into the greek world during their first yeat in college and then dropped out. Also I know a few who once they crossed over they let their G.P.A fall well below the standard G.P.A that the interest must have to even pursue membership, they are struggling just to graduate. Can one still be "active" in their sorority or frat if they fall up under one of those catagories? I mean if they are financial does it matter if they drop out of college, or get bad grades? I do not know if the question has been covered before, if it was i missed it. Are their standards after you cross that you must keep your G.P.A at? Or once you are in you are in? How does that work? I appreciate a response from any and everyone who takes a moment to respond.

[SilverTurtle]

I know that at in my particular GLO, you had to maintain a certain GPA to remain active. However, you were given one semester (sort of like a probationary period) to get your grades back up if they fell below this point. During this semester, you could remain active. Although I never knew anyone who let their GPA drop that much while I was active, it must have happenend at least once or twice.

I know that the other chapters at my school also required their members to maintain at least the minimum GPA set by the school (it was 2.5 or 2.75 I think) for Greek membership. But I'm not sure how each chapter handled any cases where that happened. (Actually, I think if your GPA stayed below 2.5 for more than 1 semester, the school itself put you on academic probabtion).

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[CrimsonTide4]

I have been contemplating whether to answer this question for a few hours and by now you can see that I have decided to respond.

I have read a lot of your posts and it bothers me that you ask a lot of questions about Greek Life. A lot of the questions you asked I FOUND OUT WHEN IT WAS MY TIME TO KNOW!!! In other words, I found out when it was deemed appropriate to know and it was not disclosed in a public forum like the INTERNET!!

Let me make this clear, yes it is good to ask questions. As a teacher, I want my students to ask questions. However, you know what I enjoyed most about my experience becoming a DELTA??? When my Prophytes gave me the info. It made it that much more special. MY point is this, not everything about GREEK LIFE should be given out to interested people because NOT ALL INTERESTEDs will make it into the GREEK FAMILY.

[AlphaChiGirl]

Prettygyrl,

I'll be more than happy to answer your question. It's an important question for anyone considering joining a Greek group in college--since getting an education is why you're going to school in the first place, not to pledge a group. Many people lose sight of that, and it's important to remember, as well as to know what you'd be getting into before you start pledging. I know at my school, you have to have a 2.5 to pledge, and a 2.0 to continue as an upperclassman (pretty easy at my school because we don't have any grade lower than a "C"). I know that it's up to the individual chapter as to how long the "probationary period" is, basically depending upon what the school's guidelines for academic probation, expulsion, etc. Your school's Greek Council website (and in some cases, the Student Handbook) should clue you in on general guidelines for entering the Greek system (for NPC and NPHC groups). By the way, I don't think this specific question was inappropriate. It's a very important issue to be aware of, going into college and considering Greek life.

[bklyndelta]

Hey Prettygyrl!

You know how we get done, but I really wanted to respond to AlphaChi girl.

AlphaChi girl you must understand that although you may not deem this line of questioning as inappropriate, many members of BGLO's DO!!!! My Soror, Crimson Tide4 feels that it doesn't warrant a response, and that should be respected. You can certainly speak coming from an Alpha Chi standpoint, but as a member of a BGLO, we probably do things a little differently.

Personally, I don't feel one way or the other, but I have seen quite a few questions asked in the general forum that could certainly be deemed INAPPROPRIATE!! But I choose to handle it differently....I just don't reply!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Different strokes for different folks, or should I say greek-lettered organizations.
Just my $19.13!

"THEE BKLYNDELTA"
1913% LEGIT AND LOVIN' IT

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[ZetaAce]

Hi All,

I agree with bklyndelta that there are a lot of questions on these boards that are inappropriate and I do the same thing she does, I just don't answer (unless it's posed specifically to Zeta, then I give the standard response about it being 'member-only' information).

As far as the questions posed by prettygyrl above, I don't think they are inappropriate (in the trying to find out more than you should sense), but I do think that they are the kind of things that you just have to (and should) find out when you are pursuing membership. There are many factors that can determine the answer to these questions.

ZetaAce

[Serenity]

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4:
Let me make this clear, yes it is good to ask questions. As a teacher, I want my students to ask questions. However, you know what I enjoyed most about my experience becoming a DELTA??? When my Prophytes gave me the info. It made it that much more special. MY point is this, not everything about GREEK LIFE should be given out to interested people because NOT ALL INTERESTEDs will make it into the GREEK FAMILY.

BGLOs are LGLOs are similar where interesteds are concerned and I have to agree with CrimsonTide4. This line of questioning is akin to wanting to know how many vacation days you are entitiled to, health/life insurance benefits,etc. when you haven't even applied for the job. Like they say, when the time comes....

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[AXO Alum]

I think AlphaChi girl gave an appropriate response since prettygyrl did not specify what type of group she is interested in. Especially considering that prettygyrl stated "I appreciate a response from any and everyone who takes a moment to respond."
AlphaChiGirl - good job - you explained our general policies well, why specifically stating that it will vary from group to group!

Prettygyrl, if you would like to email me, I'd be more than happy to discuss your questions pertaining to what I know of my organization. Since that is the only organization I belong to, then that will be the only perspective I can give. I do have a few very good examples of several of these that has happened to sisters in my chapter, and I would be happy to give you more info.

[prettygyrl]

Thanks to everyone who chose to respond and respond in a pleasant way. I asked the question of everyone I did not just specificaly say BGLOS! Just because I am interested in a BGLO does not mean that question was directed torward JUST that org. BKLYN Delta and Deltabrat thanks for your responses. Crimsontide, I do not USUALLY ask questions dear I usually just reply so what other question have I asked that you deem inappropriate? If it bothers you that I asked then do not respnd. What about greeklife do I want to know to much of. This is a GREEKLIFE forum and since you do not have to be greek to register or respond we(interests and others) can ASK whatever we want to ask it is up to each indiviual person of each individual org. to decide if they want to answer or not. I really did not think that it would be taken as a disrespectful question. Either you have standards that must be kept up to remain active or you do not. In answering my question Deltabrat simply said yes we have standards. That was a great answer. She did not go into detail and thats fine I did not expect her or anyone else to. I was just wondering. Whether ALL INTEREST make it into GREEK life or not! Has nothing to do with the question. Considering the fact that there are so many GREEKS out there representing their org. with no college degree or a G.P.A of 1.9, GREEKs should not mind making it known(if this is their policy) that Hell yea there are standards in order to keep active in ones org. That way it just looks better for each org.I suppose if a org does not have standards then I do not blame them for keeping that a secret. I mean how can you pledge someone and tell them they have to have this and this when you do not even have yor stuff together? Thats why I asked. I would be quite emabarrassed to be in college period, running around with a G.P.A of 2.0 or less, then on top of that claim to be apart of an college org. .............SO I WAS NOT TRYING TO BE DISRESPECTFUL IF SOME TOOK IT LIKE THAT SORRY. FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT PLEASE CONTINUE TO RESPOND IF YOU DO NOT MIND

[humblebumblebee]

Can some one in a BGLO please tell me what is so offensive about this question? I thought it was a good question, actually one I have wondered about myself. Can you let me know what was the faux pas, I would HATE to repeat it and jeopardize my chances to join the sorority I am interested in.
Thanks all.
HumbleBumbleBee

[DELTABRAT]

Humblebumblebee:

It is not that the question is offensive but it can be deemed inappropriate. You have to understand that most of us understand that (especially BEFORE one could type an internet address and get TONS of information)we had to get information from people face to face. There was a way to approach people and a way to do "research." I've seen people say that a lot in these forums. "Well I was told to do my research." It sounds like "Well I was told to do research, so instead of asking the XYZ's that I know about the blah, blah, blah, I'll just ask all the questions I have over the Net."

That is not the way to research an organization you're interested in. That's DEFINITELY NOT the way I did it nor many of the people on this page.

BGLOs have a strong "work" ethic...you WORK hard to get in and work even harder when you cross. NOTHING is handed to anyone.

PEACE

[bklyndelta]

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[DELTABRAT]

prettygyrl:

Yes, there are standards that must be met in order for a new member to be active. But I agree that there is a time and place for everything... a public medium such as the internet, not being one of them. Information regarding the status of new members within an organization, really should be knowledge acquired on a more "personal" level. Specifically, from within the organization inhich you are interested. I KNOW you have gotten this from other members of BGLOs and to those NOT in BGLOs, please understand that our methods of passing down information is VERY different from yours. It is not meant to be rude to prettygyrl (who has gotten much love on this site from most of us)but an attempt to uphold the standards of protocol set forth within our respective organizations.

Good luck prettygyrl on your quest for information...it was, indeed, a good question.

PEACE

[cash78mere]

hey y'all-

yes, most of us know what organization prettygyrl is interested in, but some don't. Except for people who have their orgs name in their screen name, I know I personally don't keep track or what org they are in. Let's not forget that.

I respect that the members of BGLOs do not want to answer this question from the NPHC standpoint. That's perfectly acceptable and understandable. However, prettygyrl did not state which group she wanted an answer to. In the NPC, the answer to this question is not privileged information, in fact, we encourage people asking this question BEFORE they make a commitment. AlphaChiGirl did not say that her answer is the only answer. And AXOAlum handled it well by stating that people can email her. They were not saying that CrimsonTide and Bklyndelta et al were WRONG, only that they would be happy to supply information regarding their own situation and organization.

If they hadn't answered the post for GLOs, someone else probably would have posted the exact same question seeking the answer from the NPC standpoint. This way, both bases are covered. I think everyone understands that the NPHC considers this private information and the NPC considers it public.

If someone thinks that it is appropriate to answer a question with regards to their own organization, go for it. If you think it is not appropriate, simply say so.

Please don't respond negatively to this. We now understand everyone's viewpoint. When answering a question on this board, just mention whether it is only associated with your org, council/conference, or school or if it stands true for EVERY org (which is probably hard to do). That will make it easier for everyone to understand. Thanks everyone!

Much love to all

[dc1]

eloquently put cash78mere.

There are times to take a strong stance, be angry, and YELL. There are times when it is best to remain silent and let your actions speak for themselves.



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