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05-16-2003, 03:47 PM
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Michael Moore and Disney
soooo....i heard the other day on the radio (i don't know how accurate this info is, so keep that in mind) that michael moore is teaming up with disney to collaberate on some documentary about how the bush family is involved with bin laden (like, conspiracy type stuff)........all very disturbing to me. and my opinion on the subject....well, you all should know this by now so i'll save the rant for a later day.
anyone else hear/know anything about this?
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05-16-2003, 04:07 PM
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Re: Michael Moore and Disney
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Originally posted by AlphaGamDiva
soooo....i heard the other day on the radio (i don't know how accurate this info is, so keep that in mind) that michael moore is teaming up with disney to collaberate on some documentary about how the bush family is involved with bin laden (like, conspiracy type stuff
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Latest headlines is that they backed out after a Moore interview he gave on HBO - that guy is not all there. Mel Gibson's production company had also earlier said thanks, but no thanks to taking on this so-called "documentary."
Some of his "beliefs" cast conspiracy theorists in a good light.
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05-16-2003, 04:48 PM
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Actually, there are a lot of weird things and connections that the Bush administration has had with "enemies" of the United States.
If I remember correctly the thing that triggered Moore to start researching this Bush/Bin Laden thing was that after 9/11 when it was determined that Osama was Public Enemy #1, Bush wisked away all members of the Bin Laden family in the United States away to Saudi Arabia, without questioning them. Seems pretty shady to me...
Another notable connection: Dick Cheney was the President of the Board of Halliburton before becoming VP, and two Halliburton subsidies had contracts with Saddam Hussein to do work in Iraq prior to and during the 2000 Election...
Throw in all the other shady dealings of this Administration and the shear volume is enough to make anyone who lists them all look like he or she is crazy.
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05-16-2003, 04:50 PM
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Latest headlines is that they backed out after a Moore interview he gave on HBO - that guy is not all there.
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This guy scares me. He is so looney.
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05-16-2003, 04:57 PM
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You see a documentary by Moore and you just have to consider the source. After the academy awards I don't feel he's someone that should be listened to. His views border on looney.
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05-16-2003, 05:47 PM
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Moore is an idiot. The Bin Laden family owns one the largest construction companies in that part of the world. Not all members of the Bin Laden family are terrorists any more than all Iraqis are mass murderers. It is not surprising that the Bush family has had business relations with the such a company.
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05-16-2003, 07:38 PM
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Disney?!? I don't think so.
Michael Moore is a bozo.
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05-17-2003, 03:34 AM
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Moore is an idiot. The Bin Laden family owns one the largest construction companies in that part of the world. Not all members of the Bin Laden family are terrorists any more than all Iraqis are mass murderers. It is not surprising that the Bush family has had business relations with the such a company.
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Okay, so it may not be surprising to you, but to not utilize that connection as to perhaps catch public enemy #1??? To me the whole problem with Bush is that he would prefer to take care of his friends first then to serve the American people as a whole...but I suppose that's what happens when you raise record amounts for your campaign (and a vast majority of that 193 million came from just over 700 individuals).
ktsnake, one of the things that is unique about Moore's documentries (Roger & Me, Bowling for Columbine) is that they are refreshingly non-partisan...particularly Columbine. The big question in that movie is "what makes Americans so violent?" While Moore may be in favor of promoting gun safety through political action, the message of that movie is not as such.
Now Moore's book "Stupid White Men" isn't non-partisan (pro-green if anything) but it does attack actions of both Republicans and Dems...
As for all the "loony" comments, those were the same things that us liberals were saying about Rush Limbaugh when he started up...and like Rush for conservatives, Moore points out a lot of things in the government that make a lot of people go "That's not how I want my government to work." Some of the stuff Moore points out should make EVERY American question what is being done by their representatives and elected officials.
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05-17-2003, 11:08 AM
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Just because you don't agree with him doesn't make him crazy.
Although I may not have agreed with the way he chose to use the Academy Award win as his soapbox during a sensitive time, his films are special pieces of work that many Americans would have benefitted from seeing, without dismissing him in a very close-minded way. "Roger and Me" deals with the fallout after the closing of the GM plants--essentially, he deals with the problems facing the working man.
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05-17-2003, 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by Betarulz!
Okay, so it may not be surprising to you, but to not utilize that connection as to perhaps catch public enemy #1??? To me the whole problem with Bush is that he would prefer to take care of his friends first then to serve the American people as a whole...but I suppose that's what happens when you raise record amounts for your campaign (and a vast majority of that 193 million came from just over 700 individuals).
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cite?
until you can provide some documentation to back up such a claim (ps - moore's documentaries aren't primary-source literature), it's not even worth considering.
I guarantee they were questioned - I have a friend who was questioned by the FBI, solely because his father, a professor at the U of Chicago, provides professional advice to the (legitimate) business operations of the bin Laden family.
So give me a source, or stop claiming as fact.
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05-17-2003, 06:14 PM
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If he dealt with Bin Ladin indirectly . . well why care? Politics change. Enemies change. Sometimes capriciously.
IF a journalist were to dig deep enough he might very well find entangling levels of interest that casts various people in a questionable light.
IT happens.
I always wondered if the attackers at Columbine really killed themselves? Or were shot by police and it was covered up.
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05-17-2003, 08:24 PM
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Just because you don't agree with him doesn't make him crazy.
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i don't think anyone was making a medical diagnosis, just a personal opinion about another person.
i haven't seen any of michael moore's documentaries or whatever you wanna call them....art, crap, whatever.....but i don't really have the desire to. he seems too liberal for my taste......and not that i have any issues with ppl being liberal b/c i agree with some liberal ideals, too, and i enjoy the debates and all that......but i think he's too "in-your-face" and one of those ppl who likes to try and make others feel stupid, and tries to make other ppl think they are horrible individuals b/c they think differently than HE does....long story short, he seems (to me) like a giant ass hole and i have less than a wish to see anything he puts out there......esp when makin my man W out to be the bad guy.
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05-17-2003, 10:04 PM
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Considering the things Moore said about Disney on his show, the name of which is absolutely escaping me right now, I doubt Disney would ever extend the olive branch to him, let alone agree to work with him.
While I did enjoy "Roger and Me", and can appreciate many of the things Moore has to say about gay rights, the apathy of many politicans and their voters, I really think the man is a little too extreme. I also think his move during the Oscars hurt the anti-war movement as well as the liberal cause in general. Pissing a certain segment of the population off can be a good thing. Pissing a lot of people off on national television rarely is.
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