nitpick

FuzzieAlum · #1 04-01-2003, 06:56 PM

I know this is a nit but it's been driving me nuts lately -

Pan Hel or Pan-Hellenic refers to the National Pan-Hellenic Council, the organization frequently referred to as the "Divine Nine" historically African American fraternities and sororities.

Panhel or Panhellenic refers to the National Panhellenic Conference, the organization of 26 sororities that are historically primarily white. No hyphen, no space, no capital H.

So if you were in an NPC sorority, you were probably NOT on Pan Hell, or vice versa.

It's "just" a typo, but the result is to give the name of the wrong organization, which is pretty serious.

Tom Earp · #2 04-01-2003, 07:09 PM

Fuzzie, ask away, I do not have any idea how it is done!

1. I do not understand the womens Orgs.

2. I dont understand the NPHC Orgs!

3. I am becoming sure I so not understand any Greek Orgs!

Question, When did any Org. become better than the others?

We had the BGLOS, and the GLOS, Fraternity and Soroity!

Now there are MGLO's!

Where do we as the Divine or Elite Place them!?

Do LIMBO come to mind!?

We all in some strange form opf mind still have the same thing going on! Some do it different and wrong to our way of thinking!

Well, I know MY WAY IS RIGHT!

CutiePie2000 · #3 04-01-2003, 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by FuzzieAlum
I know this is a nit but it's been driving me nuts lately -
....It's "just" a typo, but the result is to give the name of the wrong organization, which is pretty serious.

I hear you on that sister....it also drives me nuts when I am looking at sorority websites and they talk about their "ALUMNI". It's "ALUMNAE" for women, people, unless your sorority has started initiating MEN!

FuzzieAlum · #4 04-01-2003, 07:30 PM

Tom, I'll forgive ya. I'm thinking more that girls who are active in NPC or NPHC should know the right name ... just like you know that you're an LXA and don't call it Theta Chi or Beta Theta Pi!

Kevin · #5 04-01-2003, 08:56 PM

It's Founders' day, not founder's day. Unless you only had one founder.

sugar and spice · #6 04-01-2003, 09:06 PM

I think Founders Day (no apostrophe) may also be appropriate. Founders' Day would mean "a day belonging to the founders," whereas Founders Day would be more like "a day for the founders." But you're right; there is no way Founder's Day is appropriate unless you only had one founder.

(I am so obviously an English major.)

LeslieAGD · #7 04-01-2003, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
(I am so obviously an English major.)

Glad I'm not the only English major that was annoyed by this!

12dn94dst · #8 04-01-2003, 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by Tom Earp
Question, When did any Org. become better than the others?

We had the BGLOS, and the GLOS, Fraternity and Soroity!

Now there are MGLO's!

Where do we as the Divine or Elite Place them!?

Do LIMBO come to mind!?

can you say NICKNAME? Its not about any group of organizations being "better" than another. It's not that dang deep.

"The Divine Nine" refers to the nine organizations that make up the National Pan-Hellenic Council. Before the Iotas joined, we were the "Elite Eight" or the "Great Eight" depending on who you asked. IF multicultural orgs were members of the NPHC, THEN the "Divine Nine" or some other moniker would apply. HOWEVER, since there aren't any MCGLOs in the NPHC, "Divine Nine" and "D9" don't apply to them. If the MCGLOs develop a council and they want to be called the "Tenacious Twenty," it doesn't mean that they're better than anyone, it's just want they want their NICKNAME to be. It's very similar to the way I know that when someone, anyone, refers to "NPC sororities," I know they're not talking about Delta because Delta isn't in the National Panhellenic Conference. It doesn't leave anyone out in "limbo," it just means that MCGLO's aren't a member of our council.

Like the "nitpicks" others have mentioned, it's not a hard concept to grasp.

[rant] why do we continually have to defend why/how we do things? i know it's not everyone, but there are just enough "isolated" incidents, like Tom's post and whomever wants to ask why minority based greeks "still" exist, to piss people off. it's one of the "little things" that cause some of us to answer the way we do. think about it. how would you feel if it seemed like everytime you turned around, someone was asking why your org exists or why your organization or council chooses to call itself what it does? from personal experience, i can tell you it gets pretty old pretty damn fast. [/rant]

DGMarie · #9 04-02-2003, 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
It's Founders' day, not founder's day. Unless you only had one founder.

For Delta Gamma it is unequivicably ALWAYS "Founders Day." No apostrophe EVER.

DGMarie · #10 04-02-2003, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by FuzzieAlum
I know this is a nit but it's been driving me nuts lately -

Pan Hel or Pan-Hellenic refers to the National Pan-Hellenic Council, the organization frequently referred to as the "Divine Nine" historically African American fraternities and sororities.

Panhel or Panhellenic refers to the National Panhellenic Conference, the organization of 26 sororities that are historically primarily white. No hyphen, no space, no capital H.

So if you were in an NPC sorority, you were probably NOT on Pan Hell, or vice versa.

It's "just" a typo, but the result is to give the name of the wrong organization, which is pretty serious.

Can someone please tell my why one hyphenates and one does not? How can it be grammatically correct BOTH ways??

SoCalGirl · #11 04-02-2003, 12:56 AM

I'm not sure why, but my spell check hates Panhellenic.

So maybe NPC has it grmatically wrong.

DGMarie · #12 04-02-2003, 01:01 AM

mine too....

MysticCat · #13 04-02-2003, 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
It's Founders' day, not founder's day. Unless you only had one founder.

We had fourteen founders, but one, Ossian Mills, is considered the "Father of Sinfonia." In many of our documents, including our membership handbook, he is referred to as our "Revered Founder," while the other eleven are referred to as "Charter Members" of the Fraternity. Our Founder's Day ceremony, one of only two "open" ceremonies that we have, begins by saying that "[w]e are met on this, the ___ anniversary of Sinfonia's founding, to pay homage to the memory of its founder and first president, Ossian Everett Mills."

So for us, it is indeed "Founder's Day."

MysticCat · #14 04-02-2003, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by FuzzieAlum (in part)
I know this is a nit but it's been driving me nuts lately -

It's "just" a typo, but the result is to give the name of the wrong organization, which is pretty serious.

Of course, the difference is only noticeable when written. In speaking, there is no difference between "Pan-Hel" and "Panhel" or "Pan-Hellenic" and "Panhellenic." Which probably adds to the confusion.

AOX81 · #15 04-02-2003, 10:26 AM

What bugs me is when girls in my chapter say that they have to go to an NPC meeting. I want to snap them in two. We are in a local sorority, we are not a part of NPC, we are a part of a local panhellenic council through our university. Learn your Greek terminiology!! NPC = National Panhellenic Conference...PC = Panhellenic Council...BIG DIFFERENCE!!

The Alumni, Alumna, Alumnae thing pisses me off as well...