High School Orgs.

[Gorilla06]

Last week when I visited my old high school I wore my line jacket and I noticed that young men were moving to the side of the hallway and whispering and staring. They were doing it in a sign of respect. So finally I asked one young man and he told me " It is all about respecting our Big Bruhs" and I said what and he told me that he was my little brother b/c he was a member of B Phi B and I said what is that and he told me that a lot of schools in the area had started high school frats/sorors! These young men have lines and everything. They know our chants steps and the HYMN!!!!! They even have a sister org. and you guessed it they are called B Kappa B and they are pink and green!!!! These young men are really serious about this but they crossed the line so in a nice way I explained to their little leader that singing our hymn in the hallways was very disrespectful and he agreed to tell the others. What do you guys think about this.

Beta Sigma
Spr '00
Esquire #1

[Ideal08]

I think that's a bunch of mess.

When I was in high school, we had some groups, but it was hardly on that level. We had Alpha Sisters & Unity (ASU), and the brother group was Club Legit. ASU's colors were purple and lime green. Their call was a bark, like a seal. Go figure. We pledged, had hell night and everything. Looking back on it, it was really stupid. I quit the group right after hell night. I learned that night that the girls were really shallow, and I don't get down like that. Like the president told me that now that I was in ASU, I couldn't talk to ugly guys! WTF??

Then there was Eliphi (CT4, is that spelled right?). They started out as Ladies First (remember that song??). They were madd cool. They had a brother org, but I forget who they were.

But it was just not on the level that you described. I think that groups like this are cool. It just gives you something to do in High School. I'm trippin' that these folks know that much about greek life to adopt the colors and LEARN THE HYMN??!! Whoa. But they're just kids. Remember that. Po' babies don't know no better.

[Kimmie1913]

I think the biggest concern to me is that some of these groups just take what they hear, think that is all there is, and try to create their own org out of it. They have the media and thier crazy depiction of greeks nad movies about hazing with these images of being on line and sometimes war stories fomr older friends and family. They take all that and think they know what they are doing with no real context. No understanding of the point of pledgng (to create a bond, not to torture some one into the org) and a lack of understanding about the goals and service committments of the orgs. they seek to emmulate. And some of them haze like crazy.

I have also encountered some who are led by advisors who are in an NPHC org. and that is where the striking similarity comes from. Some of the info they get had to come from someone, right? At one of oour local high schools, the cheerleading advisors, a member of a NPHC Sorority that will will remain nameless, decided that they were going to have to pledge the squad, unbeknownst to the administration or the parents. They are thier own little click in the image of Sorority but that is not appropriate to me, for a school sanctioned extra curricular ativity. Not quite the same of these orgs. who founded themselves but the influence is very evident.

I have seen or heard of a few that more resemble the mentoring groups various orgs have with a more serious focus on commity serice and academics but some are something else!

[dirtymike1906]

Well said Kimmie1913! The biggest problem with these so-called orgs is that they do haze like crazy--so much and so openly, in fact, that a lot of high school grads are totally turned off to the idea of pledging by the time they've registered for Freshman classes. The concept usually centers around the latest rap record or something sillier.

And yes, the chants and steps are passed to them usually by some cheerleading advisor. Why was I at a local high school game, and heard the cheerleaders chant, "It's cold in here; there must be some ______ in the atmosphere???"

[The Original Ape]

Eh, what's up Bruh? How you been? You need to hang out mo in OUR hood a little mo often!!!!!!! It's good to see you back.

I think you told those little bruthas right. You know The Hymn; the first four words says it all. I betcha they had you trippin'; I'm trippin' on that right now.

[Alias_01]

"its cold in here....there must be some______in the atmosphere"


While this chant may have its origins somewhere in the ranks of A-PHI-A It has been a popular HS cheer for many years and even was featured in last year's movie "Bring it On" which was about cheerleaders. Just thought I might add that.


When I was a freshman in HS here in my city there where two large dance groups called U-Phi-U and K-Phi-9. These groups where mostly afterschool groups for teens to get them off the street and into something productive. Mostly they performed in talent shows and at parties but they too had a short of "crossing jackets" and line names. But they didn't step..it was more called footwork (local Chicago thang). But I know that some of their "advisors" had greek affliations. There was no pledging so to speak but there where several auditions and rites of passage kinda. But overall they where very positive youth groups.

[Professor]

Who Knew . . .

[ososuave]

Kappa Alpha Psi has an office high school program called the Kappa Instructional Leadership League or "Kappa League" for short. It's existance came from Watts in the late 60's after the riots to give high school age boys something constructive to do. It has history, para, grips, chants, etc. but none of them although similar to KAPsi are the same. Every KL chapter is sponsered by a KAPsi Alumni chapter. It is also mentioned in the book "Divine Nine" for those who want to check it out. I was a memeber in High School for 3 years and president for 2 years. There are a lot of high schoolers just makin up some "back yard" stuff but give props to those that make great pains to be real and stay real.

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"Don't be so humble - you are not that great. "-Winston Churchhill

[ososuave]

that was supposed to say..."official high school program" (not office)

[EliteSpring01]

At about 5 schools in my area there was a group called D.I.V.A.S. These groups of girls had to pledge in order to be a DIVA. You had to atleast be a sophomore to "pledge" and had to go through some pretty intense stuff. They were a bad imitation of the Illustrious Ladies of Alpha Kappa Alpha. The members carried mirrors around their necks everyday, wore atleast one piece of pink clothing everyday and even party-walked at the parties. These ladies were about their business though, raising money, community service, fashion shows, throwing parties. Everyone wanted to be a D.I.V.A. well everyone except me, I just waited till I got to college and became the real deal. LOL.
*Smooches*

[philosopher1963]

I live in New Jersey(Newark to be exact. Since the tiem that I was in high school, there had been a proliferation of high school "frats/soroities". I think these types of organizations can serve a very positive purpose, BUT only if they have the guidance of a legitimate Greek letter organization to guide it's activities and purpose(i.e Kappa League, Sigma Beta Clubs, Zeta Archonettes). With this guidance, h.s school students have interaction with positive older role models in the organizations, are introduced to the benefits of college, and learn to give backto the community. Without this guidance you have students who get misguided notions of what a fraternity or sorority is, AND potential danger and liability through hazing.


Philosopher1963