We already have several American casualties from the War in Iraq!

SeriousSigma22 · #1 03-22-2003, 12:34 AM

Sorhors and Friends of Sigma,

We all need to take the time out to really ask God to protect our soldiers at home and abroad fighting to protect this country because that idiot in the White house and his advisors have gotten us into a fine mess. One of the marines killed was a local person and an African American from Baltimore, Maryland. Everyone that knows the power of prayer continue to remember all of our people over there in Iraq.

Serioussigma22

NinjaPoodle · #2 03-23-2003, 08:57 PM

For a lack of a better phrase....

"War sucks"

My prayers to the family of this G.I.

Eirene_DGP · #3 03-25-2003, 10:58 AM

My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone in the military fighting for ole Bush. I hope that this war will end soon and we could avoid loss of life.
On another note...Did yall catch the forums in Greek life about another brother or sister of XYZ organization has passed away? I'm sorry, but there are several people who have lost their lives and they are someones father, brother, mother, sister etc. I think this random posting of orgs. losses is going to get really old really fast especially if Bush continues to keep our troops over there unnecessarily.

SeriousSigma22 · #4 03-26-2003, 06:00 PM

Folks,
I have a strange feeling that this war is going to drag on for more that just a couple of months.

Serioussigma22

CodeBlue_R3 · #5 03-27-2003, 02:52 AM

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Originally posted by NinjaPoodle
For a lack of a better phrase....

"War sucks" My prayers to the family of this G.I.

I can't agree with this statement. War does not suck-Had it not been for war and fighting would our country be as we exist today. Would black/african american people have the advantages that are available today had it not been for war. For everything one must fight. I have several friends who are at war right now. I have lost a fiance due to the strain of the military who is a part of 101st. I believe that he and all the troops are working hard to make sure that in the future the people of that country are able to enjoy the things that aren't available to them at this time.

Gina1201 · #6 03-27-2003, 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by CodeBlue_R3
Would black/african american people have the advantages that are available today had it not been for war.

Can you explain this a little more in detail? I'm just confused as to the advantages that were received due to war. Thanks.

SeriousSigma22 · #7 03-27-2003, 07:27 PM

CodeBlueR3

I would also like to know the advantages that we (African Americans) have received because of war. History has shown that the United States has always had an underlined motive for getting involved in foreign policy and it usually has to do with the rich natural resources that another country has and the U.S. wants to get their greedy capitalist hands on. For example, even the great emancipator, Abraham Lincoln, didn't free all of the slaves what about those bordering states: Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri that didn't secede from the Union. Those slaves remained slaves until much later. If he really was for our people then good ole Abe would have granted freedom to all slaves living in the United States and its territories. Then you can talk about treatment in the military during Jim Crow and segregation during the two major World Wars. Don't tell me that we gained a lot of advantages from war. I sorry but I have to agree with Sorhor Ninjapoodle because "war does suck." Those young men and women don't have to be over in the Middle East, the old Persian Empire (Iraq and Iran), or the Near East Asia for causes that the 43 President select believes are right because I'm not and a lot of other people are not accepting his a reasons for sending them into an ambush or a blood bath.

Serioussigma22

CodeBlue_R3 · #8 03-27-2003, 11:46 PM

Regardless of if it was complete or not there were advantages made to African Americans/Blacks through war. Particularly the civil war. Had people continued to sit back and take things for how they were where would we be today? Also as far as Lincoln was concerned history proves he wasn't for blacks at all, study in depth and you'll find out why he really did the Emancipation. It's all political. We are all looking at this from different views, many of the soldiers are wanting to fight this battle-others oppose but joining the military what is your primary job? They chose those career paths and needless to say this is the outcome. Yes there are a lot of unnecessary deaths but those are from common mistakes not necessary due to the war at all. No one says anything when this happens on a daily basis during normal operation-do you know how many soldiers die in just basic alone? And do you know how many die from just everyday PT? Like I said before fight for what you want. America is at a threat and if we don't defend our country-you think September 11th was something, I honestly believe we have not seen half of what the future holds.

SeriousSigma22 · #9 03-29-2003, 07:32 AM

Sorhor,

You made my point exactly we can say that there are some good points about war, however, nothing can replace human life once it is gone that's it. Those young men and women over in Iraq should not be there period because that so called president didn't send them over for the right reasons. He and his cabinet officials are saying that it's to endure freedom, however, its for the oil and because the dictator threatened papa Bush when he was in office. Papa Bush didn't take care of business in 90-91 so that's his problem but don't send our young people over there just to settle your greedy personal problems. I can get advantages from other economic or political means without having to put our people in harms way. All I have to say is remember Vietnam!

Serioussigma22

sigmadiva · #10 03-29-2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by SeriousSigma22
Folks,
I have a strange feeling that this war is going to drag on for more that just a couple of months.

Serioussigma22

Me too. I think Bush underestimated Saddam.

SeriousSigma22 · #11 03-30-2003, 02:50 PM

And another thing,

Why don't we clean up the enduring freedom in Afghanistan first before we take on the heart of the Islamic state? I still believe that Osma Bin Laden is out there planning more mayhem.

Serioussigma22

kizzie22 · #12 03-30-2003, 04:59 PM

Me too. I think Bush underestimated Saddam.

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You are exactly right soRHOr!!!

Why don't we clean up the enduring freedom in Afghanistan first before we take on the heart of the Islamic state? I still believe that Osma Bin Laden is out there planning more mayhem.

Serioussigma22

I agree!!! I think George W. is using Saddam as a scapegoat because he can't find Bin Laden. I think this war is going to make or break his chances of getting re-elected. Also, SoRHOrs and Sf's be mindful of what you say in public about mr. prez...I heard on the local radio that they arrested a man in my area. He got into an agruement about the war on the bus with some other people. He said that the prez needed to be shot for sending our troops to Iraq. Some of the people on the bus reported him and he was arrested for making a "terroristic threat". He's looking at 6-10 years. So be careful what you say!!

sigmadiva · #13 03-30-2003, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by kizzie22

I agree!!! I think George W. is using Saddam as a scapegoat because he can't find Bin Laden. I think this war is going to make or break his chances of getting re-elected. [/B]

My thoughts exactly. Please someone correct me if I am wrong, but weren't the Russians fighting in Afganistan and it lasted 10 years? I think we Americans should realize that there are many people dedicated to Saddam and they feel that they don't need to be liberated by America, that is why I think this war is going to be longer and tougher that first thought.

SeriousSigma22 · #14 03-31-2003, 08:25 PM

Sorhor Sigmadiva,

You are so very right and we (CIA) are the ones that trained Osama Bin Laden in the different types of warfare and provided him with the resources to fight against the old Soviet Union's regime. This is really a very bad idea for us to take on all of these hot spots at one time.

Serioussigma

TRSimon · #15 04-02-2003, 01:33 PM

I think that the US is going to be in Iraq for a minute. I hope that they are not, but when this war was in the early planning stages, (you know, when the UN kept going back and forth with Bush) the Bush administration even admitted that. They played up the short war and minimum casualty aspect, but they did say that they would occupy Iraq until a "suitable" replacement for Hussein was found (before the war started). England's Prime Minister, Tony Blair, said this as well.

TRSimon