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09-13-2002, 01:33 PM
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Forwarded e-mail...read and discuss
The following was forwarded to me by e-mail. What do you think???
I sat in a movie theater watching "Schindler's List," asked myself,
"Why didn't the Jews fight back?"
Now I know why.
I sat in a movie theater, watching "Pearl Harbor" and asked myself,
"Why weren't we prepared?"
Now I know why.
Civilized people cannot fathom, much less predict, the actions of evil people.
On September 11, dozens of capable airplane passengers allowed
themselves to be overpowered by a handful of poorly armed terrorists because they did not comprehend the depth of hatred that motivated their captors.
On September 11, thousands of innocent people were murdered because too many Americans naively reject the reality that some nations are dedicated to the dominance of others. Many political pundits, pacifists and media personnel want us to forget the carnage. They say we must focus on the bravery of the rescuers and ignore the cowardice of the killers. They implore us to understand the motivation of the perpetrators. Major television stations have announced they will assist the healing process by not replaying devastating footage of the planes crashing into the
Twin Towers.
I will not be manipulated.
I will not pretend to understand.
I will not forget.
I will not forget the liberal media who abused freedom of the press to kick our country when it was vulnerable and hurting.
I will not forget that CBS anchor Dan Rather preceded President Bush's address to the nation with the snide remark, "No matter how you feel about him, he is still our president."
I will not forget that ABC TV anchor Peter Jennings questioned
President Bush's motives for not returning immediately to Washington, DC and commented, "We're all pretty skeptical and cynical about Washington."
And I will not forget that ABC's Mark Halperin warned if reporters
weren't informed of every little detail of this war, they aren't "likely -- nor should they be expected -- to show deference."
I will not isolate myself from my fellow Americans by pretending an
attack on the USS Cole in Yemen was not an attack on the United States of America.
I will not forget the Clinton administration equipped Islamic
terrorists and their supporters with the world's most sophisticated telecommunications equipment and encryption technology, thereby compromising America's ability to trace terrorist radio, cell phone, land lines, faxes and modem communications.
I will not be appeased with pointless, quick retaliatory strikes like
those perfected by the previous administration.
I will not be comforted by "feel-good, do nothing" regulations like
the silly "Have your bags been under your control?" question at the airport.
I will not be influenced by so called,"antiwar demonstrators" who
exploit the right of expression to chant anti-American obscenities.
I will not forget the moral victory handed the North Vietnamese by
American war protesters who reviled and spat upon the returning
soldiers, airmen, sailors and Marines.
I will not be softened by the wishful thinking of pacifists who chose reassurance over reality.
I will embrace the wise words of Prime Minister Tony Blair who told
Labor Party conference, "They have no moral inhibition on the slaughter of the innocent. If they could have murdered not 7,000 but 70,000, does anyone doubt they would have done so and rejoiced in it?
There is no compromise possible with such people, no meeting of minds, no point of understanding with such terror. Just a choice: defeat it or be defeated by it. And defeat it we must!"
I will force myself to:
-hear the weeping
-feel the helplessness
-imagine the terror
-sense the panic
-smell the burning flesh
- experience the loss
- remember the hatred.
I sat in a movie theater, watching "Private Ryan" and asked myself, "Where did they find the courage?"
Now I know.
We have no choice. Living without liberty is not living.
-- Ed Evans, MGySgt., USMC (Ret.)
Not as lean, Not as mean, But still a Marine.
Keep this going until every living American has read it and memorized it.
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09-13-2002, 01:43 PM
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I think this is a very interesting article.
I think the liberal media's bashing of the President and the government in general is an interesting topic from this article.
He is our President, and those senators were elected by us, so why can't we just support their decisions? While we may not agree with every decision they make, didn't we say "United we will stand, we will not fall" after Sept. 11?
It's somewhat like a huge organization that has elected officers. We can't always do what we personally want because sometimes it's better to do something that is better for the organization as a whole. We support the decisions that are made at the meetings to the betterment of the organization.
Anyway.. sorry for the rant.. it's just my 2 cents
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09-13-2002, 01:56 PM
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It's an interesting message.
If he was really serious about it though, why did he use an email chain to spread it. Email chains don't have a lot of legitimacy and more than likely, his message will be discarded that way. Why didn't he try to publish it in the newspaper instead.
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09-13-2002, 01:57 PM
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I don't know, some of the post I agree with, some of it I am a little indifferent too.
I don't like seeing the planes hitting the twin towers- over and over again. Because I think about how I felt the first time I saw it and now- it is like I am desensitived to it almost- not that I don't feel sorrow and anger- it is just different. However, freedom of the press and all freedom -isn't that what we are fighting this whole war on terror for? I believe that it should be shown- people can choose to change the channel and parents should guard how much of it their children see- depending on their age.
I don't like the part about the dozen airline passengers who allowed themselves to be overpowered- we don't know exactly what went on. Maybe these people had no idea what was in the minds of the terrorists. They could have thought that the terrorists were going to hold them hostage or crash the planes in an open area- in which case they would have died anyway. Whoever wrote this email seems to have much hindsight- who would have thought that they would have flew our planes through our buildings?
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09-14-2002, 01:25 AM
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IMHO, there are parts of this article to be debated. However, I agree with a lot of what he has written. And as a daughter of a Marine, I can't help but say...
OOH RAAH!!!
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09-14-2002, 02:06 AM
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I feel a lot of anger for the meda in general a lot of the time, but this September 11th, 2002 took the cake. To me, showing that sad, horrific footage, over and over and over again, was just out of hand. I was interested to see stories about the heroes and the way America in general was dealing with the aftermath of 9/11...however, I did not like how the media interviewed the grieving families, trying to act like they were grieving right along with them, when really they were trying to get them to cry on camera. Not all news reporters are completely heartless, but you can tell that the news reporter just wants ratings when the camera starts getting closer to the person's face so we can see the tears. It's disgusting. The media should focus on the celebration of life, rather than the exploitation of death. Sorry to go off for so long, but I truly despise how the media handles tragedy...they exploit it for all its worth.
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09-14-2002, 11:16 AM
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I do agree with his refusal to forget the way Vietnam veterans were treated upon their return to this country. Whether or not we should have been there, so many men gave the ultimate sacrifice (and so many more are haunted, physically and emotionally) for their country. I have to admit that the war protesters, in some cases, acted horribly.
BUT...some of the contents of this forward scared me. No one knows what happened in those four planes...whether or not those people were overpowered. Maybe this is a strong comparison, but it's almost like saying a rape victim "allowed him/herself to be overpowered by his/her attacker." Just a but presumptuous. Asking why the Jews didn't fight back? Whoa. Maybe he should read some early 20th century European history before he asks another question like that. It's almost like asking, "Why didn't all the slaves escape?"
He seems to have a lot of hangups about the Clinton administration. One wonders whether 9/11 had happened under a Democratic administration, if he and his ilk would have done the same thing they accuse the "liberal media" of doing--bashing the President and Congress. Just food for thought. It's very easy to be loyal to the government when your guy is in charge, isn't it?
Personally, if I never see the picture of the second plane slamming into the tower for the rest of my life, I will never get that image out of my head--it will haunt me for the rest of my life. Just because it's not being aired on TV every day doesn't mean it doesn't have an indelible mark on so many people. I knew that 9/11/02 would be saturated with that coverage on TV that I chose not to watch it. You can't blame the media for your decision not to turn off the TV.
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09-14-2002, 11:33 AM
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Wow, this guy sounds like some crazed militia man.
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09-14-2002, 01:08 PM
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I think that was uncalled for. Master Gunny Evans has some right wing views that, based on your previous posts, you would find to be anathema, but I think calling a US Marine a "crazed militia man" is not necessary.
My views are the polar opposite of yours and yet I would never consider calling you rude names because of them.
I think we are both above that!
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09-14-2002, 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by librasoul22
Wow, this guy sounds like some crazed militia man.
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What should we do about him? Put flowers in our hair and chant at the evils of the US?
-Rudey
--I hear the peasant look is popular right now so any girls who chanted would definitely have the clothing to match the mood.
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09-14-2002, 01:20 PM
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All I have to say is everyone has the right to think what they want. Thats part of what America is about. I tend to disagree with his right wing beliefs but I know he has the right to believe whats he wants and he didn't influence me any.
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09-14-2002, 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by KillarneyRose
I think that was uncalled for. Master Gunny Evans has some right wing views that, based on your previous posts, you would find to be anathema, but I think calling a US Marine a "crazed militia man" is not necessary.
My views are the polar opposite of yours and yet I would never consider calling you rude names because of them.
I think we are both above that!
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I was being sarcastic. I do not agree with his email. And actually I don't think my comment was all that rude. I have been called a "traitor" before, lol, so I don't think a "crazed militia man" is all that bad.
Is Master a rank in the military? Just asking.
I actually find this quote to be very true:
"On September 11, thousands of innocent people were murdered because too many Americans naively reject the reality that some nations are dedicated to the dominance of others."
But I am pretty sure he doesn't mean it like I do.
Just the overall tone of his post makes me somewhat apprehensive. It's as if he blames everyone who opposes America's value system for the wars we have been involved in. Has he researched WHY the U.S.S. Cole got bombed? It was in retaliation, not hatred. MOST of the acts of terror against the U.S. have been in retaliation. But I am sure that is FAR too left wing to comprehend.
Pearl Harbor? We bombed first. No one is taught that little tidbit.
Vietnam? Does anyone even know the PURPOSE of that??
I will soften my stance on the "crazed" part, but I stand by my opinion otherwise.
btw, Rudey, I don't really buy into the new peasant craze. I tend to lean more toward business-casual, lol. And when I chant the evils of the U.S. I have on my very best DKNY blazer. Strictly FYI.
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09-14-2002, 03:07 PM
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Is Master a rank in the military? Just asking.
A Master Gunnery Sargaent (i.e. "Gunny") is a senior listed rank in the Marine Corps. I don't think they have Gunnies in the Army.
Pearl Harbor? We bombed first. No one is taught that little tidbit.
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For the record, I don't care for the peasant craze either. But equally disturbing is the proliferation of prairie skirts I've seen in stores. I didn't like 'em in 1983, I don't like 'em now. Who wants to look like an extra on "Little House on the Prairie"?
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09-14-2002, 03:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by librasoul22
Just the overall tone of his post makes me somewhat apprehensive. It's as if he blames everyone who opposes America's value system for the wars we have been involved in. Has he researched WHY the U.S.S. Cole got bombed? It was in retaliation, not hatred. MOST of the acts of terror against the U.S. have been in retaliation. But I am sure that is FAR too left wing to comprehend.
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So I didn't get the correct change today, and I reached across the table and bitch slapped that puss faced 14 year old in retaliation. Then I walked across the street and kicked the old lady who had the nerve to walk so slowly in front of me because I retaliate.
-Rudey
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09-14-2002, 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by KillarneyRose
A Master Gunnery Sargaent (i.e. "Gunny") is a senior listed rank in the Marine Corps. I don't think they have Gunnies in the Army.
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Thank you for clarifying. Other than the Army and Navy, I have no idea what the ranks are.
Pearl Harbor? We bombed first. No one is taught that little tidbit.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...or_submarine_1
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For the record, I don't care for the peasant craze either. But equally disturbing is the proliferation of prairie skirts I've seen in stores. I didn't like 'em in 1983, I don't like 'em now. Who wants to look like an extra on "Little House on the Prairie"?
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LOL!
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