Will Having a Rush Coach Hurt Me?

[BoatsAhoy]

I've already read through several of the threads here on GreekChat about recruitment coaches and overall you all don't seem to fond of them.

I'm going through recruitment this fall at a private Southern university that I'm told ranks around a 7-ish on the competitiveness scale. Over the weekend my little sister told me that I am getting a sorority rush coach as a high school graduation gift from my grandparents (I'm not supposed to know this yet). I've seen the pros and cons of having a coach. While I have a feeling this is probably going to be school-specific, if a sorority found out that I used a rush coach would it hurt me going through recruitment or later on if I become a member of a sorority?

[DubaiSis]

I don't think it would hurt your chances; I think it's probably just kind of a waste of money. What she CAN help you with is preparing for the types of conversations you will have and give you guidance on how to answer. She can also help you complete your registration form if you haven't already and write your resume. What she CAN'T do is get you the recs that will make a difference - those really need to come from women you know personally for the most impact. She also can't fill your resume with the quality accomplishments needed to make you really sparkle on paper. She can probably help you with clothing choices if she knows your school personally and is current on trends there right now. How they were when her daughter rushed at Bama 10 years ago is worth no more than me telling you for free to dress nice in clothes that fit that you feel comfortable in and that are flattering.

Take the coaching and accept any criticism she gives you, but if she would stray at all into gossip or advice about how to get into a PARTICULAR chapter, run for the hills. The perfect rush is the one that gets you into the perfect chapter FOR YOU, not ABC chapter in particular. Her advice should spend time on how to handle rejection and some tough love about how the process really works.

I will be interested to hear what she has to say.

[WestcoastWonder]

I agree completely with Dubasis. I've only known one person to hire a rush consultant and while it didn't hurt her chances, she didn't think it was worth the money her mom paid and said the rush coach mostly echoed things she's read online and helped her practice conversations.

But unless you sounded overly practiced and rehearsed or you mentioned it yourself, I doubt the girls rushing you would know you had rush coach.

But who knows, perhaps she could be a great help to you!

[irishpipes]

WestcoastWonder,
I am going to guess that you are trying to be helpful, but you are NOT Greek, and giving recruitment advice is ill-advised. The OP will think you are Greek by your comments and your signature, and I think you know that. Observing your sister's recruitment does not qualify you to give such advice, and you are dangerously close to being a GLO member/alumna perp. In another thread you even advised a PNM to pm you for specific recruitment advice. Again, I'm assuming you just want to help, but this is very inappropriate in my opinion.

[irishpipes]

WestcoastWonder,
I am going to guess that you are trying to be helpful, but you are NOT Greek, and giving recruitment advice is ill-advised. The OP will think you are Greek by your comments and your signature, and I think you know that. Observing your sister's recruitment does not qualify you to give such advice, and you are dangerously close to being a GLO member/alumna perp. In another thread you even advised a PNM to pm you for specific recruitment advice. Again, I'm assuming you just want to help, but this is very inappropriate in my opinion.

[AOII Angel]

I don't see how any of the groups would find out unless you told them or you went to a recruitment coach dumb enough to publicize your involvement prior to a bid. Keep your mouth shut about it. Generally good advice throughout the recruitment experience.

[sigmagirl2000]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

WestcoastWonder,
I am going to guess that you are trying to be helpful, but you are NOT Greek, and giving recruitment advice is ill-advised. The OP will think you are Greek by your comments and your signature, and I think you know that. Observing your sister's recruitment does not qualify you to give such advice, and you are dangerously close to being a GLO member/alumna perp. In another thread you even advised a PNM to pm you for specific recruitment advice. Again, I'm assuming you just want to help, but this is very inappropriate in my opinion.

I'm not new and I guess I just assumed that WestCoastWonder is a member/alumna of a GLO. Signature and misleading posts by WCW are certainly shady given this new information :-\.

[summer_gphib]

Originally Posted by BoatsAhoy

I've already read through several of the threads here on GreekChat about recruitment coaches and overall you all don't seem to fond of them.

I'm going through recruitment this fall at a private Southern university that I'm told ranks around a 7-ish on the competitiveness scale. Over the weekend my little sister told me that I am getting a sorority rush coach as a high school graduation gift from my grandparents (I'm not supposed to know this yet). I've seen the pros and cons of having a coach. While I have a feeling this is probably going to be school-specific, if a sorority found out that I used a rush coach would it hurt me going through recruitment or later on if I become a member of a sorority?

I don't think it would hurt, but I wouldn't advertise it either. And always remember to be true to yourself during rush. Don't take any advice (even if it is well meaning) that has you coming off as fake. If you "play a part" to get into a certain house, then you will be miserable once rush is over. Remember that this isn't just a "they have to love me" thing... it's a "we need to love each other thing." Seems pretty obvious, right? It's not always, when people get too caught up in it. Just be the best you that you can possibly be--by that make sure you are well groomed and put together and that you are open to meeting new people. Don't be afraid to smile. But don't "fake it." By that I mean, if you are someone who usually wears very little make-up, don't suddenly plaster yourself with the stuff.

I guess the point I am trying to make is that you should listen to the rush coach's advice, but remember they aren't the holy grail. If something they say to you makes you feel uncomfortable or is that you shouldn't be true to yourself, then remember it's just one person's opinion. Good luck, and I sincerely hope that you will share your rush (damn it, "recruitment") story!

[BadCat25]

I acted as an unpaid rush coach for a girl from my church who was going to our SEC school. We worked on clothes, makeup, haircut and most important, conversation skills. It worked for her as she got a bid from one of her top choices. I told her to forget about this "be yourself" stuff because she should "sell herself" just like a job interview. I also told her to never mention what we were doing as I thought it might act as a negative.

[Shellfish]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

Observing your sister's recruitment

If that even existed.

[als463]

Originally Posted by sigmagirl2000

I'm not new and I guess I just assumed that WestCoastWonder is a member/alumna of a GLO. Signature and misleading posts by WCW are certainly shady given this new information :-\.

I'm not new either and for some reason this slipped by me too. What's up with people who never went Greek coming to a forum specifically for Greeks and those looking to go Greek and handing out advice? Apparently, it's more than one person. It's both WCW and now, as I learned, Low Flat D. Both of these people need to step away from the keyboard and STOP handing out advice! I'm Greek but, did not attend a school in the south for recruitment. Guess what PNMs will not be getting my special recruitment advice? You guessed it, southern Greeks! Now, for those of you who aren't even Greek, please stop!

[AZTheta]

Best advice given: learn to make sparkling, memorable conversation. That will get you noticed in a good way. Pretty much everything else you can figure out all by yourself. Google "secrets of good conversation" and have fun practicing!

[AnchorAlumna]

OMG!!!!
There's a "Sorority Competitiveness Scale" and I didn't even know about it?!?!?
Who's running it? How do they operate? When do they issue judgments? Where's their website?

HOW DID I MISS THIS?????


(Just humor, folks)

[Pythia]

Originally Posted by WestcoastWonder

For the love of all thats holy. YES I AM IN AN NPC CHAPTER. And no, I am not my sister. If my sister knew so much about Greek Life and recruitment, i'm sure she would be in a sorority right now. I wish I would've said this to begin with if I knew you guys were gonna turn this into a witch hunt. It's not that serious.



NOW. MOVE. ON

QFP

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by als463

I'm not new either and for some reason this slipped by me too. What's up with people who never went Greek coming to a forum specifically for Greeks and those looking to go Greek and handing out advice?

New to me, too, although I was aware the other person was not a member of a social fraternity or sorority.
The whole forum was set up for anyone belonging to any Greek organization, be it NPC, IFC, NPHC, local, honorary, music, business....any kind of Greek organization.
It's just that most of the discussion is NPHC, IFC, and NPC related.
There's still some out there that isn't, and they are active forums.

Edited to add: After reading Pythia's post...........nevermind.