Arizona State University - TKE

[AZTheta]

This does not look good for the fraternity system at ASU.

[Phigirl04]

They were literally just reinstated on campus and now this. In my opinion, right now the biggest threat to fraternity life at ASU is the fraternities themselves.

[DrPhil]

What does it take to realize these parties are dumb? It's not even "offensive" anymore in terms of being angry. Now it's just hilarious that they are so dumb. Attention whores, maybe?

ETA: LOL. I just saw the photos. Are they serious? And people wonder why race relations are the way they are. They are the way they are because people (usually white people--sorry ) can be polite and claim kumbaya and then do dumb crap like this in their spare time.

[AOII Angel]

I am seriously beginning to think the fraternity system at ASU wants to be shut down completely. With this and the events last year, they are well on their way to pushing the administration past the breaking point.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I am seriously beginning to think the fraternity system at ASU wants to be shut down completely. With this and the events last year, they are well on their way to pushing the administration past the breaking point.

I feel this way about a few schools that I know.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I am seriously beginning to think the fraternity system at ASU wants to be shut down completely. With this and the events last year, they are well on their way to pushing the administration past the breaking point.

The system would just go underground and the issues would just get worse.

[AZTheta]

Here is an update..

Kevin, I'm not sure about the system going underground, I honestly don't know enough about ASU/Tempe even though it's just 110 miles or so to the north. What I am concerned about is the situation with the ABOR (Arizona Board of Regents) and the close scrutiny they have placed the greek systems of all three state universities under (NAU, ASU, UA). This has the potential to have far-reaching consequences beyond TKE at ASU.

DrPhil, this is way past dumb in my book. Way past.

[Kevin]

I don't understand why this doesn't begin and end with TKE.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I don't understand why this doesn't begin and end with TKE.

Because a student died last year and now administration has Greek life in their crosshairs.

[AZTheta]

Kevin, if I could find the letter sent to the Greek Life Offices of all three state universities, I'd share it here. I'll look for it this weekend (crazy busy the rest of this week). This is a huge issue state-wide.

[WestcoastWonder]

When we people realize that racially themed parties are NEVER A GOOD IDEA?

It's racist, tacky, unbecoming and embarrassing for you, your chapter and your national org.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Because a student died last year and now administration has Greek life in their crosshairs.

It's a huge school. I mean, per capita, more kids are going to die there than other places.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by WestcoastWonder

When we people realize that racially themed parties are NEVER A GOOD IDEA?

Since this is about more than GLO reputation and school reputation:

1. When whites (in general) realize they, too, have a race and whiteness is not race neutral. Things don't start "being about race" only when racial and ethnic minorities enter the picture. Things were always about race. /white privilege

2. When whites (in general) stop believing there is a such thing as "colorblind". /white privilege

2. When whites use their White People Monthly Meetings (the same as the Black People Monthly Meetings that Blacks joke about having) to tell these dumb white people to stop having these parties.

Until the above things happen, schools can stop the dumb white people from doing this at one school but dumb white people will still do this at another school. The dumb is contagious.

[ElieM]

Bright side - at least there didn't seem to be any black face going on?

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by ElieM

Bright side - at least there didn't seem to be any black face going on?

A silver lining, indeed.