NPC question

[ASUADPi]

I'm not sure if this is the right forum or not, but here goes.

In another thread DubaiSis mentioned an unknown (she couldn't remember the name) GLO that might be the next addition to NPC.

So I got to wondering...

How does a local go about joining the NPC? What are the pros/cons to them joining NPC? Do these locals have to have a certain amount of chapters to even be considered to join NPC? Are there any locals now who are considering it?

[AGDCanada11]

I've always wondered how a sorority would go about joining the NPC!

My guess is that they would have to be a strong National to be considered (or even international).

I haven't heard of anyone trying to join though!

[Titchou]

From the NPC Manual of Information (MOI), aka the Green Book,:

Requirements for Membership
A women’s fraternity must have been established in its national character for a minimum of 13 years; all of its collegiate chapters must be established in senior colleges and universities authorized to confer bachelor degrees and recognized by the appropriate regional association of colleges and universities; and it must have at least 14 chapters, of which the latest established is at least two years old.

[tld221]

straightforward enough.

In the same way that NPHC fraternities can be members of NIC, could NPHC sororities join the NPC? Of course I'm neglecting the huge structural differences that make it virtually impossible, but just asking.

What about a MCGLO or Asian sorority (I dont know if they also fall under MCG)?

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by tld221

straightforward enough.

In the same way that NPHC fraternities can be members of NIC, could NPHC sororities join the NPC? Of course I'm neglecting the huge structural differences that make it virtually impossible, but just asking.

What about a MCGLO or Asian sorority (I dont know if they also fall under MCG)?

I doubt they would want to belong to both groups so they'd have to pick one. And since NPHC groups don't recruit the same way NPC groups do, I'd think that an impediment.

[DubaiSis]

They COULD but they'd have to accept NPC recruitment policy and somehow I don't see that happening. I think there are some schools where it could work, but having the NPHC convert to rush instead of intake would kind of go against everything they stand for.

I could see, if they wanted to increase their membership at a big school that has a very diverse population, they could participate, at least partially, in formal rush. And I suppose if it went well they could expand the test.

I don't see it for most of the MCGLOs (including the Asian ones) because most of them aren't at nearly enough schools to be able to compete financially. But they could still participate in formal rush if they wanted to. 4-H participates in rush at Illinois, for example. And I think this is the answer at Indiana. Before long NPC is going to be fully represented and they probably still won't have resolution for the numbers problem. So they start begging the NPHC, MCGLOs, specialty GLOs, etc. to participate to defray some of the abundance. I have some ideas swirling through my head on how to do that, but it would head us WAY off topic.

[amIblue?]

I kind of think this whole discussion is inappropriate. The NPHC and the MCGLOs are thriving without the NPC. I'm sure if they wanted to be part of the NPC, it could happen, but I can't imagine why they'd want to.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Titchou

From the NPC Manual of Information (MOI), aka the Green Book,:

Requirements for Membership
A women’s fraternity must have been established in its national character for a minimum of 13 years; all of its collegiate chapters must be established in senior colleges and universities authorized to confer bachelor degrees and recognized by the appropriate regional association of colleges and universities; and it must have at least 14 chapters, of which the latest established is at least two years old.

Because this seems to be the night for needlessly parsing the MOI, if you had fourteen chapters that were at least two years old, but then one more that was newer than that, would you be eligible?

[IndianaSigKap]

Realistically are there any non NPC chapters that would even be a possibility other than Sigma Alpha Epsilon Pi and the Alpha Omega Epsilon (? is that the name of the Greek engineering sorority)?

[Dnpgopenguins]

What about sigma alpha? It's an ag sorority that seems to have a lot of chapters. And I believe there are 3 engineering sororities, in addition to what you mentioned there are Alpha Sigma Kappa, and Phi sigma Rho. Of the three only Alpha Sigma Kappa has less chapters than the other two who both have over twenty chapters each. My friend and I have been discussing establishing a chapter of an engineering sorority when we transfer so we have been learning everything we can.
DNP

[Leslie Anne]

Did Kappa Beta Gamma make a formal decision about working towards joining the NPC? I have a very vague memory of them going their own route but that could be wrong. Just curious.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

They COULD but they'd have to accept NPC recruitment policy and somehow I don't see that happening. I think there are some schools where it could work, but having the NPHC convert to rush instead of intake would kind of go against everything they stand for.

I could see, if they wanted to increase their membership at a big school that has a very diverse population, they could participate, at least partially, in formal rush. And I suppose if it went well they could expand the test.

I don't see it for most of the MCGLOs (including the Asian ones) because most of them aren't at nearly enough schools to be able to compete financially. But they could still participate in formal rush if they wanted to. 4-H participates in rush at Illinois, for example. And I think this is the answer at Indiana. Before long NPC is going to be fully represented and they probably still won't have resolution for the numbers problem. So they start begging the NPHC, MCGLOs, specialty GLOs, etc. to participate to defray some of the abundance. I have some ideas swirling through my head on how to do that, but it would head us WAY off topics.

Begging? Yeah...no. A school's greek system shouldn't force PNMs to consider other orgs outside their formal rush system just to alleviate crowding. Can you encourage? Sure. At the very least, sororities outside of NPC can host events during rush week at their discretion and be very clear that a. Membership intake will not happen inthe first weeks of school and b. freshmen are (for the most part) ineligible for membership (yes I'm aware that many schools allow 2nd semester freshmen to apply for membership).

Originally Posted by amIblue?

I kind of think this whole discussion is inappropriate. The NPHC and the MCGLOs are thriving without the NPC. I'm sure if they wanted to be part of the NPC, it could happen, but I can't imagine why they'd want to.

I don't think the conversation is inappropriate but the implication that NPHC or MCG orgs would because they "need to" for numbers is. I dont think that opinion has been asserted.

The question really was a hypothetical. If it ain't broke don't fix it. But I do see value in both models re: recruitment and I think there are lessons to learn.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Because this seems to be the night for needlessly parsing the MOI, if you had fourteen chapters that were at least two years old, but then one more that was newer than that, would you be eligible?

I'm sure you could. It's not like they would expect them to stop adding chapters for two years to be NPC eligible. That would be counterproductive. They're just saying that if you have 30 chapters, at least 14 of them have to be at least 2 years old.

[DubaiSis]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

Did Kappa Beta Gamma make a formal decision about working towards joining the NPC? I have a very vague memory of them going their own route but that could be wrong. Just curious.

AHA! It was Kappa Beta Gamma I was thinking of.

[KSUViolet06]

A few KBG chapters have either closed or affiliated with NPCs (whole thread about it) so I highly doubt that this is something they're pursuing anymore.