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Old 10-15-2010, 05:48 PM
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Yale: DKE Apologizes for Pledge Chant Incident

http://www.newser.com/story/103017/y...t-on-tape.html

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(Newser) – A major Yale fraternity was forced to apologize yesterday, after its members marched past the college’s Old Campus—where most first-year women are housed—chanting “No means yes, yes means anal,” and “F---ing sluts,” among other sexist comments. Several were blindfolded. The incident, . . . , was caught on tape and posted to YouTube immediately Wednesday night, according to Salon.

Yale’s other frats rushed to condemn DKE, and the group’s president issued an apology, telling the Yale Daily News that it was “a serious lapse in judgment by the fraternity and in very poor taste.” The Yale Women’s Center plans to hold a forum on the incident today, and members of the frat have promised to attend . . . .


See also an article in the Oct. 15 Yalie Daily:
http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/20...pledge-chants/
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Old 10-15-2010, 06:10 PM
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wow... :-/
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Old 10-15-2010, 06:15 PM
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Sometimes, I can chuckle at "frat boy antics" that I hear about. This one isn't even remotely funny, though.
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Old 10-15-2010, 06:22 PM
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Wow. If that would've happened here there'd be heads rolling. It wouldn't surprise me if this ends up screwing DKE down the line with social prospects and such though.
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Old 10-15-2010, 06:37 PM
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Sometimes, I can chuckle at "frat boy antics" that I hear about. This one isn't even remotely funny, though.
What you said there, I agree with it.
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Old 10-15-2010, 06:56 PM
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“No means yes, yes means anal,”
haha, I saw this on Old Row, does anyone know where it comes from?
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Old 10-15-2010, 07:06 PM
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haha, I saw this on Old Row, does anyone know where it comes from?
Someone who thinks rape is funny?

Oh wait.


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The original article says it's happened before, frequently.
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This isn’t an isolated incident; a former Women’s Center board member says the “No means yes” chant has been heard before, and that sexist frat demonstrations recur every couple years.
From 2008: Apparently the Zeta Psi pledges posed for a picture outside the Women's Center saying "We Love Yale Sluts." In 2006 the chant was outside the women's center again. In 2009, they discuss how nothing was done and the WC was essentially blamed for being too sensitive.


So really they're not sorry, they're sorry they got caught. On video this time.
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Old 10-15-2010, 07:25 PM
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I read this on Huffpost this morning and thought, "Really, how stupid can you get?!"
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Old 10-15-2010, 07:32 PM
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This is horrible. I'm glad that they are being forced to apologize. I really hope that more serious disciplinary actions are taken against them, because saying things like that are just not acceptable, no matter the reason.
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Old 10-15-2010, 07:35 PM
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Yale rejected me and they let these morons in. Just wonderful.
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Old 10-15-2010, 07:48 PM
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I saw this on Youtube I think overnight Wednesday. I was wondering if anyone was going to post about it. It's been all over the news here locally.

Obviously, school-smart people don't always have common sense. It's sad.

PS I was reading that "fratty" website posted the other, where people were posting about stuff being "the frat life" or some similar phrase, lauding spending trust funds indiscriminately, calling other people poor/northern/democrats/not fratty, bragging about their "sororstitutes" making them sandwiches after she does their homework and gives them a BJ, and all other sorts of nonsense. The Yale issue is just as disgusting as that site. Yuck.
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Old 10-15-2010, 07:53 PM
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I saw this on Youtube I think overnight Wednesday. I was wondering if anyone was going to post about it. It's been all over the news here locally.

Obviously, school-smart people don't always have common sense. It's sad.

PS I was reading that "fratty" website posted the other, where people were posting about stuff being "the frat life" or some similar phrase, lauding spending trust funds indiscriminately, calling other people poor/northern/democrats/not fratty, bragging about their "sororstitutes" making them sandwiches after she does their homework and gives them a BJ, and all other sorts of nonsense. The Yale issue is just as disgusting as that site. Yuck.
It shouldn't take common sense. Not being assholes actually takes less effort than being assholes. Laziness should cover it. Instead they actively CHOSE assholery of the misogynistic, rape-apologetic variety.
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:04 PM
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Someone who thinks rape is funny?

Oh wait.
Not sure I said that.
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:09 PM
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Not sure I said that.
Weird, you started your comment with "ha ha"

Perhaps "Ha ha" is shane for "I'm concerned about the negative influences media has on our youth"
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:20 PM
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Weird, you started your comment with "ha ha"

Perhaps "Ha ha" is shane for "I'm concerned about the negative influences media has on our youth"
Yeah, starting a sentence with haha does not implicate thinking rape is funny.

I am not surprised with your illogic.

(it might implicate that I saw the same quote on Old Row and think its funny if those kids read it.)
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