Gay Encounter Posted on the 'Net, Rutgers Student Jumps off the GWB

Always AlphaGam · #1 09-30-2010, 03:51 AM

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09...udent.suicide/

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(CNN) -- A Rutgers University student who apparently committed suicide was the unknowing target of an internet broadcast showing him in a sexual encounter, New Jersey authorities said Wednesday.

Two other Rutgers students have been charged with invasion of privacy after they allegedly placed a camera in 18-year-old Tyler Clementi's dorm room without his knowledge and then broadcast Clementi's sexual enounter, according to the Middlesex County prosecutor's office.

Another article says that the images involved Clementi having sex with another man.

Thoughts? Should the two other students involved receive a heavy punishment? This reminds me of the Myspace mom bullying the teen girl in MO who committed suicide.

I feel for the victim and his family. Humiliation is temporary. Certainly not worth taking one's own life.

Alumiyum · #2 09-30-2010, 04:56 AM

They should certainly follow through on the invasion of privacy charge. That goes way beyond a prank, and yes, these kids need to be made into an example. I can't say I've seen things like this happen to anyone I know, but people do post less serious photos or posts that can certainly make their target feel bad and they just do not realize that it's a big deal. It's like they think their corner of the internet is small and insulated. It's not.

rhoyaltempest · #3 09-30-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Always AlphaGam

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09...udent.suicide/

Another article says that the images involved Clementi having sex with another man.

Thoughts? Should the two other students involved receive a heavy punishment? This reminds me of the Myspace mom bullying the teen girl in MO who committed suicide.

I feel for the victim and his family. Humiliation is temporary. Certainly not worth taking one's own life.

It wasn't images. It was a live stream of him having sex with another man...far different and far more invasive.

http://www.switched.com/2010/09/29/r...y-live-stream/

knight_shadow · #4 09-30-2010, 11:41 AM

I don't have any words for this.

LikeASista · #5 09-30-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Always AlphaGam

Humiliation is temporary. Certainly not worth taking one's own life.

Exactly. I can assume this young man was not open about his sexuality yet. But, as I always say, the only way two people can keep a secret, is if the other one is dead. It's better to just be who you are, ... but that's much easier said than done obviously. So tragic ...

rhoyaltempest · #6 09-30-2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Always AlphaGam

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09...udent.suicide/

Another article says that the images involved Clementi having sex with another man.

Thoughts? Should the two other students involved receive a heavy punishment? This reminds me of the Myspace mom bullying the teen girl in MO who committed suicide.

I feel for the victim and his family. Humiliation is temporary. Certainly not worth taking one's own life.

It's not always that simple. There are degrees of humiliation and this one goes above and beyond what most of us will ever have to deal with in our lives and not just because it was a homosexual encounter; some would be just as devastated if they were broadcasted having sex as a heterosexual. We are all different and are impacted by life's challenges differently, which is why we all have to take matters of bullying and such more seriously. Sometimes the outcome of humiliation such as this is indeed permanent unless maybe you are able to re-locate and remove yourself from an environment and if you're a celebrity or well known person, you might not even be able to do that. Not saying it's worth taking your life but just pointing out that it's not that simple, especially without a strong support system.

preciousjeni · #7 09-30-2010, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Alumiyum

They should certainly follow through on the invasion of privacy charge.

Not just that.

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Collecting or viewing pornographic images of someone without their consent is a fourth-degree crime in New Jersey. Broadcasting them is a third-degree offense, and carries a maximum prison term of five years.

http://www.switched.com/2010/09/29/r...y-live-stream/

PeppyGPhiB · #8 10-02-2010, 04:39 AM

To add to the privacy issues, there is supposedly evidence that may suggest the roommate was motivated out of hate of homosexuals.

I hope they prosecute these two kids - or at least the roommate - to the max possible. I can't imagine ever thinking it was OK to film my roommate having sex with someone, broadcasting it over the Web a couple of times, and tweeting about it a couple of times, too. It was just plain mean, and has potential to cause terrible mental anguish that someone might not ever get over.

Amicus · #9 10-02-2010, 12:39 PM

I understand the alledged perpetrators would get a maximum sentence of five years if found guilty of the invasion of privacy charges. I propose if they are found guilty that the perpetrators serve their sentences in a maximum security prison. If they are so interested in watching homosexual activity, they ought to experience such activity, up close and personal.

exlurker · #10 10-02-2010, 06:14 PM

According to news reports the Phi Delta Theta chapter at the university is helping with memorial activities:

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...lementi_3.html

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. . . Dozens of Rutgers students left flowers and notes at a memorial table at Brower Commons on the College Avenue campus in New Brunswick. Phi Delta Theta, the fraternity that organized the memorial, plans to send the notes and flowers to Clementi’s family.

"We decided we should put something together for people to voice their frustration and condolences," said Jason Dacruz, 20, the fraternity’s president. "We wanted it to be more of a personal thing for Tyler." . . .

NinjaPoodle · #11 10-02-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Always AlphaGam

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09...udent.suicide/

Another article says that the images involved Clementi having sex with another man.

Thoughts? Should the two other students involved receive a heavy punishment? This reminds me of the Myspace mom bullying the teen girl in MO who committed suicide.

I feel for the victim and his family. Humiliation is temporary. Certainly not worth taking one's own life.

I disagree. Everyone has their level of what they can tolerate. It's apparent he reached his. Think about possible fallout of what happened. Can you imagine how that would affect his life? His friends, family knowing this part of his life that was hidden for whatever reason, displayed for all the world to see. People can be very cruel as this was the case. I seriously doubt his life would have gotten any easier unless maybe he moved to another country. It's easy for us to say "suicide is not the answer". For some it's the only answer. I certainly don't recommend it as a solution to anything, speaking from experience.

ETA:
I found reasons valid to me, to live. Unfortunately, this young man did not.

Honeykiss1974 · #12 10-02-2010, 07:44 PM

Even if he was "out", taping anyone's sexual activity (gay, straight, solo) and broadcasting it live over the internet without their permission is disgusting. This is just another example of cyber bullying and someone taking their life because of it. When you pick on others, you never know how the person being bullied will handle it. Some people ignore it, some people get revenge, but some do take their life.

NinjaPoodle · #13 10-02-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974

Even if he was "out", taping anyone's sexual activity (gay, straight, solo) and broadcasting it live over the internet without their permission is disgusting. This is just another example of cyber bullying and someone taking their life because of it. When you pick on others, you never know how the person being bullied will handle it. Some people ignore it, some people get revenge, but some do take their life.

Ditto.

Drolefille · #14 10-03-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Amicus

I understand the alledged perpetrators would get a maximum sentence of five years if found guilty of the invasion of privacy charges. I propose if they are found guilty that the perpetrators serve their sentences in a maximum security prison. If they are so interested in watching homosexual activity, they ought to experience such activity, up close and personal.

Yes. Rape is funny and should be used as a punishment. Because some people deserve it.

honeychile · #15 10-03-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974

Even if he was "out", taping anyone's sexual activity (gay, straight, solo) and broadcasting it live over the internet without their permission is disgusting. This is just another example of cyber bullying and someone taking their life because of it. When you pick on others, you never know how the person being bullied will handle it. Some people ignore it, some people get revenge, but some do take their life.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Nobody truly knows another person's limits.

And I think Amicus has the right idea about punishing these losers. It's just a shame that there's no way to punish everyone who watched this travesty for more than a few seconds.