Gamma Zeta was RIGHT- the betrayal of MSU's Lambda Chi Alpha

[lenoxxx]

Every Lambda Chi Alpha should feel let down and disgraced by this article. Shame on LCAP, and Shame on Nationals for shucking responsibility.

Gamma Zeta- you are 100% right on.


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Sadly, I continue to eat Crow on this.

And if you feel this post is about you, or is attacking you, good, it probably is.

Shameful!!

I hope whoever got 30 pieces of silver from this has bad karma for life.

[RU OX Alum]

Good luck. You have my support.

[lambdachi1100]

This is just unacceptable. Kudos to the President and Vice-President of this chapter for arguing their case in front of a commission who could have easily granted the simple parking variance needed by the developers to finalize the contract with Mike Smith. Never give up hope.

Where are our nationals to fight for this chapter? Eugene Dunham was the High Pi for the Gamma Omicron Zeta at Michigan State for years, and now he sits atop LCAP's Board of Directors. We need to start rallying our Grand High Zeta to advocate for our brothers. I can only imagine their response to such abandonment at the General Assembly this summer.

[lenoxxx]

Here's my question- LCAP is going bankrupt basically...

.....Why isnt this house just being sold for a dollar to Gamma Omicron?

Gene Dunham and every single person associated with LCAP should be ashamed of what is happening. And as omeone that was part of getting the rug pulled out from under them as well the whole "LCAP and Lambda Chi Alpha" were separate/are separate. That's a joke, they are very much the same.

Same secretaries, same office, all members of the same group, LCAP would use elc visits and sanctions (member expulsion) from the GF to implement their goals, and the fact that they were getting loans from eachother to keep LCAP solvents makes me cry foul on it all.

If you are going to General Assembly, speak out on this, what a joke!!!

GAMMA ZETA WAS RIGHT

[Kevin]

Sorry to crash, but this sort of phenomenon was exactly why I'm wary about national house corporations. With pooled assets comes pooled liability.

[Sigma1844]

Why aren't they selling the house to ΓO for a dollar? Because the profits off this sale might save another chapter from the same fate down the road. That is to say that if LCAP can capitalize on this deal, where they have a strong offer on a great property, then the profits from it might keep LCAP from having to sell another house in a hurry, which might allow another chapter to keep their house. Why sell the ΓO house and not another to help ΓO keep theirs? 1. the house is valuable and 2. the chapter will survive, they have a strong presence on campus. Other chapters don't have those two benefits to LCAP.

Is it fair? No. Is it the line you'll hear from HQ? Doubtful. In fact, I've never heard this "benefit" espoused by anyone on the GHZ or HQ staff. It is, however, one of the few sensible lines of reasoning that would explain why LCAP and HQ are acting in this manner.

Sorry, ΓO - my heart goes out to you guys.


Bottom line: ΓO is a lamb to the LCAP slaughter, but they might help another chapter avoid the same fate.

[lenoxxx]

Sigma-

I could agree with you in principal, however this is LCAP. You are giving them way too much credit for having any kind of plan at all. At Shippensburg we explicitly told them in November of 2007- If you are doing this, dont rely on these children to live in the house, they will live elsewhere or lie to you. LCAP told us they understood that. Months later in April/May of 2008 I got a frantic email (after being asked not to be a part of their shenanigans) from LCAP about how they couldnt sell the house, and asked the undergrads to live there again, and Lo and Behold the undergrads lied to them about getting leases for them, and LCAP had a vacant property they couldnt sell, with no buyers in sight, and no renters.

Flash forward to summer 2008

I called to ask if anyone from the chapter had signed up to go to GA (none had) and I asked them if they had realized the chapter was probably livng in the house illegally. Of course LCAP told me "They cant do that they are not allowed to", at which time I laughed at them and told them to do some homework on it. And again, Lo and Behold the undergrads were living there illegally! LCAP Threatens them over the phone when they find out, and the chapter proceeds to destroy the house- further ruining the value of the sale of the house. The house was later sold in 2009 at a loss and Phi Tau got nothing out of the sale since LCAP told us they didnt have the money to give. Amazing how Phi Tau took the loss on this, and not LCAP for their continual negligence/idiocy.

So in closing Sigma- to give LCAP any credit for some kind of plan to spin off Gamma Omicron's house to some bigger plan to save others to me is a joke- they couldnt handle a simple rental that should have made money and turned it into a disaster, after being told what to do at numerous times over 4 years, culminating in that last list (above) of complete idiocy. LCAP is like a chicken with it's head cut off.

They should sell that hosue for a dollar, and declare bankruptcy to their creditors- LAMBDA CHI ALPHA NATIONALS, and help out the chapters. This is about paying back nationals, and Gamma Omicron is the sacrificial lamb to fill their coffers up at the main office, not helping out a Zeta in distress at MSU or some other "as yet to be named place".


So I will agree with you and tweak your bottom line a bit...

Bottom Line- Gamma Omicron is a Sacrificial Lamb to LCA's national's bottom line for loaning money to LCAP.

[GammaZeta]

This really hurts me to say I said this 4-5 years ago.

I wish I was 100% WRONG on this.

[lenoxxx]

Gamma- I feel like all of our chapters were like clients of Bernie Madoff.

I got suckered along with the rest, and I say it again, we should have listened to you.

It's humbling to admit being wrong on something like this, but liberating to have the courage to say it at the same time. Right now Im just out banging the drum for the guys at Michigan State to bring awareness, and hopefully some embarrassing attention to this situation to the powers that be, as opposed to letting it totally slip under the rug.

zax

[GammaZeta]

It was difficult for me to admit that we were swindled 5 years ago.

LCAP came in with promises of pool tables, big screen TV's, extra effort for recruitment, and on and on.

First day under LCAP rule, they made us go down to the basement to sign ILLEGAL leases.

We sued them on the ILLEGAL leases and WON in a COURT OF LAW.

The problem with LXA is simple. NO ONE HAS ANY EXPERIENCE IN WHAT THEY DO!

Look at the founders and employees of LCAP. Not one of them had any property management experience. NONE! Never mind any experience management dozens of properties across the United States.

Hell, they even had a built in customer base in the members of LXA and they still couldn't make it work.

LXA promotes from within regardless of experience, education or qualifications.

My twist on Woody Allen's saying:

Those who do...do.

Those who can't...teach.

Those that can't teach...teach gym.

Those that can't teach gym...work for LXA.

[lenoxxx]

The 6 years prior to LCAP we had 100% occupancy, and 100% rent collection at our old house, after LCAP it went to like 50% on both counts, and when we had ideas for them to do it better at a small state school they told us "WE KNOW HOW TO DO IT".

Do you remember saying that Joe Klimek? Smart ass punk.

And Joe, I hope you are reading all of this, and thanks for sabotaging us, and many other chapters.

[GammaZeta]

Leno,

Did you get the "we're brothers" speech BEFORE you signed the house over? The speech where they say they will treat you like brothers of LXA, support you, respect you, help you?

And then did you get the "this is business" speech AFTER you signed the house over? The speech where they tell you if you are late with your rent you will be automatically evicted, or if you don't agree to their illegal terms the day you are supposed to move in you will be homeless for the semester, or how they wrongfully handle your security deposit and they refuse to refund it?

[lenoxxx]

Yes sounds about right.

My gripe is that they told us at LCAP that if they needed to they would lean on nationals to expell brothers for not paying rent etc. and demand the chapter bring charges against people for doing things to the house, it shows they blurred the line with LCAP and nationals many times, now they want separation.

Shippensburg and UMass were straight up stolen from by LCAP and the National fraternity. That's the spirit of things with the current staff and GHZ in my humble opinion.

[GammaZeta]

The denial of LXA is a vicious circle.

Every year, you have a group of 18 year olds that are brain washed into the LXA praise and "do no wrong" attitude.

"We believe in Lambda Chi Alpha..." over and over and over and over and over again. The more you say and see it, the more you believe it. After a while, LXA isn't just a group of guys, or even a brotherhood, but something you were brain washed into thinking of the perfect organization.

I was brain washed, and learned the hard way.

Not to say LXA and the BROTHERS and PEOPLE aren't great...but as a formal organization.... Too often we forget that it's the PEOPLE that make us great and NOT HQ. It's the friendship between brothers, and common goals between chapters.

If HQ stopped existing this very moment, we would still be brothers and nothing would change. If us brothers stopped existing this very moment, HQ would cease to exist.

HQ is there to serve US, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

Now back to the point. Every year you have thousands of 18 year olds brain washed into thinking LXA is great and can do no wrong.

HQ, believing in the brain washing, hears the chants and praises and BEGINS TO THINK IT IS TRUE THAT THEY CAN DO NO WRONG.

Problem is, it is a circle with no outside influence or critique. They insulate themselves from the real world by this cycle.

Now if something does go wrong (LCAP) everyone is afraid that the issue will tarnish LXA and they either 1. let it continue until it does serious harm 2. ignore it 3. come out with some new program to mask it 4. go on a witch hunt against anyone willing to expose or fix it 5. throw more gas on the fire in the hopes it will eventually fix itself.

We need to privatize our HQ. Bring in CEO's and CFO's and managers that are accountable on a YEARLY basis to the stockholders...THE BROTHERHOOD.

Let professionals run our million dollar organization/company.

That would allow us to focus on what really counts...the brotherhood.

[GammaZeta]

Also forgot to include:

http://alum.wpi.edu/~joseph.klimek/

Notice on the top two "accomplishments" he lists "break even" as an achievement...

Seriously, LXA hired a guy with no real estate experience who listed "break even" in a resume and was trained by Kip Zurcher to run LCAP. I'm not even going to go into Zurcher and the previous management.

Hey GHZ...STOP HIRING FROM WITHIN AND GET QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS!