Update on K A Psi FAMU Hazing Incident

[BrnSuga]

http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs...604120316/1010

[SKEEphistAKAte]

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My husband is an Alpha Xi Nupe...they don't look like they used to when I was at FAMU. They have some monsters now. Jeez. I remember when Nupes were fine.
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The article says they've been suspended until 2013. That is nuts. I guess the other frats will see a marked increase in interest .

[NUPE4LIFE]

FAMU needs to address the culture of hazing that exist on campus. You have Pharmacy professional organizations that haze on campus. Let's not even get started on the Marching 100.

I'm not excusing my frat at all. If the allegations are true, those involved deserve to be punished. And what bugs me is that the other greeks on campus are now talking about how their processes are gonna be looked at more carefully now. They should be. Everyone hazes at FAMU. Hell the Gospel Choir use to haze. They had G Phi G or Glorify God. Something like that. But they hazed too. I don't want FAMU to put a moratorium on membership intake but they have to get a handle on the overall problem. To be honest, the Band/Service type organizations haze worst than the NPHC. SKEE, I know you know what I'm talking about.

[Rain Man]

Originally posted by NUPE4LIFE
...the Gospel Choir use to haze. They had G Phi G or Glorify God. Something like that. But they hazed too.

The Gospel Choir hazing?

*rereads to make sure I am reading this correctly*

The GOSPEL CHOIR HAZING

If such is the case, then dang. I guess there is a problem at FAMU?

To be honest, the Band/Service type organizations haze worst than the NPHC.

Are you for real? You're saying that KKY/TBS and APO/GSS haze worse than NPHC orgs? I don't ask this to disagree with you, I just have a hard time visualizing this, that's all. You are probably correct; it's that I just have to "see it", that's just my take on it.

[NUPE4LIFE]

Yes, Frat they haze worse. I likend it to an inferiority complex. They feel like they have to prove the worth of their organizations so they pledge harder. I don't know if this is the case today, but Epicurean Modeling Troupe use to haze as well. Everyone at FAMU has line jackets. It sickens me to a point. What does pledging have to do with being a part of Kappa Psi and Kappa Epsilon (fraternities and sororities respectively) have to due with hazing. Kappa Psi even have sweethearts called Kappa Psyettes. I just don't get it. It's not uncommon to see someone walking around FAMU with some sort of shirt on with a line number on the back.

[SKEEphistAKAte]

You're absolutely correct N4L. EVERYBODY hazes at FAMU. 9 times out of 10 if you are in any campus org, you were hazed to get into it. The non-greek orgs haze just in an attempt to give themselves some yard credibility. At HBCU's becoming a member of the D9 is extremely desirable (to say the least). However, everybody can't join. So people try to get the same respect, admiration, attention of D9 orgs by immitating them (i.e. having "lines", getting D9 style nalia, hazing etc). I think it's a mess and people who do that are clownish. But it is prevalent at FAMU.

Coincidentally, my ex-hub was also a member of Kappa Psi, the pharmacy frat. Um....they pledge hard...harder than some frats. That is all I will say about that. I think it's corny.

Yes, people are hazed relentlessly to be a member of the Marching 100. Our band is legendary, they've played all over the world, everybody wants to be down...you have to "earn" your way in. That is the way it is.

*shrugs shoulders* Hazing is prevalent at FAMU. I wonder if it is just us or do any other HBCU's have the same problem. Anybody?

[Visionary22]

I would venture to say others are the same....and yes pledging to get in the band is no joke.

[ZetaStorm]

I wonder if it is just us or do any other HBCU's have the same problem. Anybody?

I went to two different HBCUs, No it's not just FAMU.

At HBCU's becoming a member of the D9 is extremely desirable (to say the least). However, everybody can't join. So people try to get the same respect, admiration, attention of D9 orgs by immitating them (i.e. having "lines", getting D9 style nalia, hazing etc).

This is the TRUTH. I've seen people go to extremes to try and get into an org.

[Private I]

Yup, I've seen plenty of the modeling troupes have line jackets far more elaborate than I'll ever be able to afford.

[Amaterasu]

Two things I definitely have to agree with:

1) Competitiveness of sororities/fraternities at HBCUs. I'm in the AUC and ladies and gentleman here have to devote an ENTIRE YEAR of effort to get into these orgs, sometimes more. It's not a spur of the moment decision. You have to know practically from the moment you walk through the door. And there's no schooling here. You have to already know how to play the game, or you lose.

2) EVERYBODY AND THEY MOMMA WANT LINE JACKETS. GSS and APO (very small on CAU), KKY/TBS, SAI, Sinfonia, they all got line jackets and numbers, hand signals and calls. (I seent a Phi Mu Alpha line jacket the other day and my eyes went O_O Them things cost as much as NPHC jackets) Shit, the freshman dorms get Greek letters, paraphernalia, step teams, and beef with each other. The Greek phenomenon is desirable but because of point 1 people have to find alternatives for it, or create their own.

Just the perspective of an outside, but you know. It's almost funny to watch from this perspective, but it's like desperation. I watch 100+ young men and women vy for 35 spots.

[Rahmeen]

Im not in a Fraternity but I am a student leader, and people walk around my campus with line jackets and shirts on as well. The Track Team has line shirts, and a group of students just up and created there own organization and they have sweethearts, line shirts, dog tags, hand signs, and they were party walking. Its pretty sad.

[MightyQuinn]

Originally posted by Rahmeen
Im not in a Fraternity but I am a student leader, and people walk around my campus with line jackets and shirts on as well. The Track Team has line shirts, and a group of students just up and created there own organization and they have sweethearts, line shirts, dog tags, hand signs, and they were party walking. Its pretty sad.

I think it's all gotten way outta hand but luckily I don't define my "greekness" by 'nalia. As for the hazing, I just hope we all wake up and realize that enough is enough already. Personally I think more a more demanding intake process would help resolve some of the problems but then again there will always be a few that feel they have something to prove.

[Lady of Pearl]

Originally posted by MightyQuinn
I think it's all gotten way outta hand but luckily I don't define my "greekness" by 'nalia. As for the hazing, I just hope we all wake up and realize that enough is enough already. Personally I think more a more demanding intake process would help resolve some of the problems but then again there will always be a few that feel they have something to prove.

I agree enough is enough already!

[NUPE4LIFE]

Originally posted by NUPE4LIFE
Yes, Frat they haze worse. I likend it to an inferiority complex. They feel like they have to prove the worth of their organizations so they pledge harder. I don't know if this is the case today, but Epicurean Modeling Troupe use to haze as well. Everyone at FAMU has line jackets. It sickens me to a point. What does pledging have to do with being a part of Kappa Psi and Kappa Epsilon (fraternities and sororities respectively) have to due with hazing. Kappa Psi even have sweethearts called Kappa Psyettes. I just don't get it. It's not uncommon to see someone walking around FAMU with some sort of shirt on with a line number on the back.

RAINMAN IS NOT A BROTHER OF KAPPA ALPHA PSI FRATERNITY INC. WE ARE HOWEVER BROTHERS OF ALPHA PHI OMEGA NATIONAL SERVICE FRATERNITY.

[SKEEphistAKAte]

Originally posted by NUPE4LIFE
RAINMAN IS NOT A BROTHER OF KAPPA ALPHA PSI FRATERNITY INC.

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