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Old 03-03-2005, 09:11 PM
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Wacky Article about Underground LCA chapter

I read this on another thread on GC, ironically I ran into an "underground" alumni of this chapter (Slippery Rock) at a well known sports bar in State College the other day. Realized he was a brother due to his tattoos, he told me how well they were doing "off the grid" I wonder if LCA actually sued them? Read Below

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http://www.sru.edu/depts/rocket/news...ewsstory1.html


Former SRU fraternity may face lawsuit

By: Rebekah Renshaw
Rocket News Editor

A group of students claiming to be members of a fraternity, which lost its charter at Slippery Rock University more than a decade ago, may face a lawsuit due to the continuing operation of the group on campus.

According to Eric Richards, risk manager for Lambda Chi Alpha international headquarters, a group of students at SRU are still referring to themselves as members of Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity. SRU had a chapter of Lambda Chi Alpha on campus until 1991, when the fraternity was shut down due to chronic violations of alcohol and risk management policies coupled with a consistent decline in chapter operations.

Richards said that his goal is to get the message out to those students involved in the group and to get them to stop what they are doing because of safety concerns and copyright laws.

“The point of this entire escapade is to rid our organization and the campus of any dangerous activity that occurs on a regular basis,” Richards said. “Anytime you have an uncontrolled group, through the absence of headquarters and SRU policy, you could have a very dire situation. All we want is for these activities to stop. But, if they don’t, then we will definitely press charges.”

Cathie Sadler, coordinator of Greek affairs at SRU, said that the group is a safety concern because there is no way to monitor what they’re doing.

“When an organization continues to perpetuate underground, they may be doing things that may be considered a risky behavior,” Sadler said. “And, if they are, we’re not able to control that in any way.”

Richards said that he is encouraging any members of the group to cease the activity and join a recognized group on campus.

“Greek life is a valuable part of any college student’s career, when it is experienced in the right manner,” Richards said. “These individuals are not receiving the experience which they should and are recruiting other students to join and receive a similar, negative experience.”

Sadler added that she wants new students looking to get involved in a Greek organization to know that this underground Lambda Chi Alpha group is not one that they should be associating with.Richards said that the national Lambda Chi Alpha headquarters were notified last year about the possibility that alumni from the former SRU chapter were possibly aiding the group and, in December, they sent out a letter asking for the actions to stop.

Richards said that while they do not know the individual names of the students involved, they’re planning on finding the residence of the group and contacting the owner.

“Unfortunately, we do not currently know specific names of the individuals involved, only that there is a place of residence.” Richards said. “We plan to locate and contact the individual or individuals who lease or rent the property.”

If the action does not stop, Richards said that the international headquarters of Lambda Chi Alpha would press charges against the students. If convicted, the students would be ordered to cease and desist any activities related to Lambda Chi Alpha and fines may be levied for copyright infringement.

Members of the group refused comment concerning the issue.
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Old 03-03-2005, 11:01 PM
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That's insane !

The illegal militant wing of Lambda Chi.


One's gotta wonder what their numbers are like.


Guess they won't be putting in for any awards at G.A.
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Old 03-04-2005, 05:13 AM
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True that...

I guess then we aren't that 'underground' - at least we are recognized by IHQ if not by the school (that is a whole other issue that my sister did a paper on).

I'd love to know what there recruitment process is - and how it works out for them...
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Old 03-04-2005, 06:20 AM
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i know we cannot go into details on this board but what about ritual? homemade stuff?
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Old 03-04-2005, 04:41 PM
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Most of the stuff they could make, or hire someone to make. I'm sure they've picked up a couple of items on E-bay.

As for the contents of the actual Ritual, they could find/purchase the entire ritual on the net.

It's interesting, Maybe their ritual is word for the word the same with the exeception of some funky break-dancing at the end.
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Old 03-04-2005, 06:36 PM
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I hope that IHQ tries to step in and nip this at its base.

If not, SR will be forever lost for expansion.

Dont these moroons know it harms LXA as a whole.

WOW, no wonder they got the Charter taken from them.

Sounds like the same mentality to me.
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Old 03-04-2005, 07:02 PM
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SRU

To clarify, they are recognized by noboday and that article was 3 years old. When I ran into this guy at a sports bar he told me that they have alot of members, and a large house.

Apparently they seem to be doing fine without sanctioning from anyone, they have been closed for almost 14 years now, as I said "off the grid"

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Old 03-04-2005, 10:12 PM
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We had that happen at Umass with the old PiKE chapter that was disbanded. They operated for several years as the most successful fraternity in Amherst until a court order finally put the nail in the coffin.

Anyways, if I were them I would just change the name to Lambda Chi Alpha Beta or something like that and avoid the lawsuits.

Why doesn't HQ just give them a charter if they have the house and the members? I would guess they probably wouldn't want it if they are doing well.

I like the idea of a rogue outfit. Loosen up HQ a bit.
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Old 03-04-2005, 11:58 PM
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lenoxxx can you clarify even more?

"IF" They are Using The Name of LXA without sanctions, then, They are wrong! They are doing s disservise to all of us as Brothers.

This will keep Us off of Campus for many years to come because of these people.

I refuse to call them Brothers!
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Old 03-05-2005, 01:02 AM
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I bullshitted with this guy for like 5 minutes, he seemed nice enough. I dont think they care if you call them our brothers or not, they havent cared about that for years it would seem.

I just got the impression that this guy had just gotten out of school and was in State College for some reason, the outlaw SRU chapter still is doing well and has a house and a good amount of members. It would appear that the lawsuit or whatever in the article I posted didnt do much as that was from 3 years ago.

BTW there is an active underground chapter at Villanova and one at Susquehanna U. In selinsgrove pa right now as well. They are both pretty well known as well.

gammazeta, maybe we could do a road-show to all the outlaw chapters to interview them! (just kidding)

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http://www.susqu.edu/crusader/articl...ArticleID=1107
University moves to oust illegal fraternity

By Meghan O'Reilly
Assistant News Editor

Following recent concerns from the national chapter of Lambda Chi Alpha about an underground fraternity bearing its name at Susquehanna, administrators and athletic coaches are taking steps to insure students and athletes alike are not participating in any such organizations.

"Coaches of all athletics are taking steps to keep athletes from pledging any illegal or underground fraternity," head football coach Steve Briggs said.

Several athletic teams will not allow members to participate if they choose to pledge underground fraternities.

Briggs' concerns focus on low grade point averages of the athletes who participate in pledging underground fraternities because there are no rules or regulations similar to legal fraternities.

Fraternities require all prospective members to have a certain G.P.A. before they are allowed to begin pledging.

"Those underground fraternities don't have any requirements," Briggs said. "Then I have kids [football players] quitting my team and dropping out of school," he continued.

Briggs clearly stated that football was not the only sport in support of this issue.

Men's track coach Jim Taylor confirmed that he would discourage any athlete or non-athlete from joining any illegal organization at Susquehanna.

In 1993, the national chapter of Lambda Chi Alpha withdrew Susquehanna's charter.

That same year, Susquehanna withdrew Lambda's recognition with the university due to serious disciplinary problems, according to Dorothy Anderson, dean of student life.

Problems with the former chapter of the fraternity included hazing, which violates state law and university policy, according to Anderson.

"Their behavior crossed the line. There were several assaults related directly to the underground fraternity," Anderson said, referring to an incident that occurred on campus last winter.

Anderson added that a period of five years must pass with no association to the former chapter of Lambda Chi Alpha in order for the national chapter to reconsider its charter.

"They [the underground fraternity] are entitled to a free association, but they can't tie themselves to the [Lambda] name," Anderson said.

"The longer they associate with that name, the less likely they will get their charter back," Anderson said.

Susquehanna president L. Jay Lemons met with members of the underground fraternity earlier this year.

"It was made very clear that any association with the name [Lambda Chi Alpha] would put off any reconsideration of reactivating the charter," Lemons said.

"I spoke with several Lambda alumni who are troubled and embarrassed to have the name associated with a group who haven't always been the most honest and upright," Lemons said. "These alumni do not regard them as brothers," he continued.

Lemons had positive things to say about the underground fraternity as well.

"They clearly care about one another and have made strong bonds," he said.

Prior to the revocation of the charter at Susquehanna, the name Lambda Chi Alpha "meant more" than what it has become to mean today, according to Lemons.
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Old 03-05-2005, 01:52 AM
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It's an interesting concept.

On the one hand they screwed up, badly, and deserved to be punished.

On the other hand, they still wanted to continue the fraternity and keep the brotherhood together.

If they really loved the fraternity, they wouldn't have violated it's law (which I don't always agree with or follow myself). Of course, trying to continue on shows some true dedication. Maybe they deserve a second chance?

This kinda just goes around in a circle.

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Old 03-05-2005, 06:30 PM
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Whats the deal with chapters in pennsylvania? It seems they just can't give it up. I met an ELC who told me he was visiting the St. Joes chapter and they ran into another Lambda Chi. They asked him what chapter he was in, and he said at Villanova, this was after Villanova was shut down. So they asked him how the chapter was doing at Villanova, and he said they were doing great, just had a rush class of 15 guys. So it seems that they are doing just fine without official recognition.
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Old 03-05-2005, 07:18 PM
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Alot of it is the poorly run greek systems at alot of colleges in Pennsylvania and alot with the state laws and enforcement on drinking and the lot. Chapters that probably are award winners in the South or mid west would be shut down in Pennsylvania.

Anyhow Honky to make a long story short, Pa has had several long running illegal chapters

IUP( now a chapter of Pi Lambda Phi, with our ould chapter designation Beta gamma zeta, now Beta Gamma Chapter of Pi Lam, after being local as BGA for years)

Villanova- Beta Iota

Bloomsburg Beta Xi, affiliated with another fraternity after being underground for a while

Slippery Rock- Lambda Xi- still going

Susquehanna- Still going- Iota Eta

James Madison in Va had a long running illegal chapter not sure if they are still around.

Basically alot of these chapters have houses or housing, and have parties, and they can recruit (helps to not have much in the way of dues) At shippensburg we have underground chapters of at least 5 national fraternities, so it isnt just LCA, it is the whole state and all the greek systems.

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Old 03-05-2005, 07:33 PM
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Well, the Phi Tau Zeta is doing by the rules and doing very well.

It is amazing as you and I have along with others try to figure out the web of Pa. Schools and Greeks.

In reading this, I just wonder how not only LXA and all other Greek GLOs feel about this?

This seems to be an funkle upped Situatin, oh forget about the wankle of gizmoing!

But if go by the rules, then in the clear!
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Old 03-06-2005, 02:55 PM
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It might just be me, but after reading the article, one thing worries me a little. The article wants them to disband and join actual organizations. If the members join affiliated campus organizations.
A: What ritual have they been using,
B: If they use ours, they probably don't use the oaths,
C: they are not under the same obligation to keep those oaths,
D: Whats to keep them from divulging all the secrets,

When I started school at UNCG, TKE was just losing their charter. They disappeared for a long time, and then resurfaced as a local, that was rumored to still use TKE's ritual. These were a bunch of hoodlums, no actual Greeks got along. They did in fact get Theta Delta Chi to make them a colony. They are still rumored to using TKE's ritual rather than TDelt. Due to the fact that they could never get on campus, supposedly TDelt just disassociated the colony.

As far as rogue Lambda Chi Chapters goes, NC State (Gamma Upsilon) is rumored to having a rather strong rogue chapter. Never met anyone in it, but I have heard about it 3rd hand.

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