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Old 01-15-2009, 10:01 AM
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Happy 80th Birthday MLK

One can only imagine what he would say if he could be alive to see today.




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I do have a question: In your opinion, how much different do you think America would be had he not have been assassinated?

Would America already had seen a Black President?

How much more aware would the US or the world be of the cultural division here in the US and how much more (or less) progress would we have made towards bringing the country together?
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Old 01-15-2009, 01:31 PM
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It's recognized this Monday, isn't it?
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Old 01-15-2009, 01:44 PM
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It's recognized this Monday, isn't it?
The Holiday is...his actual birthday is today.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:29 PM
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The Holiday is...his actual birthday is today.
But I thought it was always honored on Monday.

ETA: I just misread your post. Yeah, that's what I thought.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:32 PM
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But we are allowed to wish him a happy birthday on his actual birthday.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:35 PM
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But we are allowed to wish him a happy birthday on his actual birthday.
Go ahead, no one's stopping you.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:37 PM
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But I thought it was always honored on Monday.

ETA: I just misread your post. Yeah, that's what I thought.
Back in the day before it was made a federal holiday, most cities (at least Baltimore and DC) celebrated his actual birthday and thus most local jurisdictions down.

My only nitpick is since MLK has a holiday on the 3rd Monday, most calendars do not denote the actual birthday anymore.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:40 PM
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Back in the day before it was made a federal holiday, most cities (at least Baltimore and DC) celebrated his actual birthday and thus most local jurisdictions down.

My only nitpick is since MLK has a holiday on the 3rd Monday, most calendars do not denote the actual birthday anymore.
Some places still don't honor it. To me, that's sad.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:42 PM
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Some places still don't honor it. To me, that's sad.
Don't get me started on that...heh

I can only imagine what will happen if (HUMONGOUS IF at that) ever serious talk comes around to Obama's bithrday or something like that akin to a national holiday.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:44 PM
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Don't get me started on that...heh

I can only imagine what will happen if (HUMONGOUS IF at that) ever serious talk comes around to Obama's bithrday or something like that akin to a national holiday.
I doubt they would make Obama's birthday a national holiday. He would be apart of Presidents day.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:48 PM
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I doubt they would make Obama's birthday a national holiday. He would be apart of Presidents day.
Oh I know that but.....if Lincoln can get one....hehe

Funny that you mention that...I also remember for a long while before it was all consolidated into President's Day, local jurisdictions used to close for Washington and Lincoln's B day and I really think that aprt of just having ONE day to celebrate elminated the confusion that sometimes occured when their birthdays fell on weird days of the week
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:52 PM
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Oh I know that but.....if Lincoln can get one....hehe
Does he?

ETA: I just found out that a US Airways A320 airbus just crashed into the Hudson River. It's on t.v. It just happened.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:54 PM
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Does he?

ETA: I just found out that a US Airways A320 airbus just crashed into the Hudson River. It's on t.v. It just happened.
Used to...

hey, start a thread up when more gets reported....some sad news to hear on a day / week like this.

ETA Damn Benz!!!
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:56 PM
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Used to...

hey, start a thread up when more gets reported....some sad news to hear on a day / week like this.
Benzgirl already did. She's watching it on CNN. I think they're getting some of the passengers out safely.
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:48 PM
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In your opinion, how much different do you think America would be had he not have been assassinated?

Would America already had seen a Black President?

How much more aware would the US or the world be of the cultural division here in the US and how much more (or less) progress would we have made towards bringing the country together?
Honestly, I cannot imagine a world with MLK still alive. I guess to me it is the same as if Christ was not crucified and resurrected. I am not one to really speculate, but if I were to do so, MLK's impact would not be what it is today. I think his mode of "non-violence" and "civil disobedience" would have started to get old--which is was at the time of his death and that the US would have fractured further. IDK? I think that the division would have gone unresolved and we would see something similar to that seen in places like France in the Bonne Heures.

Happy Birthday, Dr. King! This year, you'd be proud!
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