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Old 10-21-2008, 01:00 PM
GammaPhi88 GammaPhi88 is offline
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Greek Stigma

Has anyone ever been treated badly in other organizations because they are greek? I have been part of an organization on campus since the beginning of my freshman year, and since I joined a sorority, respect for me has gone down the toilet. I have to miss part of one of our weekly meetings because of a class, and while I've told them repeatedly its for a class, I get harassed, and someone usually makes a crack about sororities almost every time I leave to go to class.
I can;t wear letters to meetings because my coach specifically asked me not to, and I'm not allowed to wear letters when we travel either, because they say that they don't want us "badly represented". Recently, I received a diminished role in the group, and when I asked why, they told me it was because they think I take my house more seriously than I do them. I miss meetings because I'm in an academic class, and I have worked my way up from the bottom of this group since freshmen year. I love my house, but I keep it separate from this group and I've worked too hard for this team to just leave.

Has anyone here experienced similar problems? And what did you do about them?
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:03 PM
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Wow, I've never had that happen. I was a member of several campus groups during my time, but they appreciated my being Greek. It often gave a different perspective than they were used to. They also appreciated the connections that I (along with other Greeks) had on campus.
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:09 PM
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I have never had that happen, but it would make me feel bad.
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:11 PM
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Is this a debate, mock trial, model UN, or quiz bowl team?

It seems like you have competing cultures here....I don't want to stereotype, but yeah, I could imagine the culture of the above type orgs not taking kindly to Greeks (at certain schools).

Do you feel like your coach is part of the problem?
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:28 PM
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It is along those lines, I've mentioned my school here, so I'd rather not point out the team. And yes, the coach does encourage the teams behavior.
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:31 PM
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If you were my daughter, I would advise you to elevate your concerns to whomever the coach reports to. At my school (from what I recall) the Debate Society coach was a university employee, who reported to the Director of Student Programs, who reported to the Vice President of Student Affairs.

I imagine that are your school, on some level, the Greek Affairs person/people/office ultimately report to the VP of Student Affairs as well.

Seems to me like you should be able to sit down with all parties, discuss the issue, and come to a peaceful resolution.

It seems like borderline discrimination and harassment to me.
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Old 10-21-2008, 02:04 PM
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Old 10-21-2008, 02:09 PM
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If people don't respect you than your pair of stand-ups is too long. 5" or go home.
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Old 10-21-2008, 03:10 PM
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Wow, Ive never heard of that either. While the concept may be foreign to me (only because I have not had the experience that the OP has had), it only further perpetuates the stereotype of Greek life in general. People tend to dismiss what they don't understand completely, and often times ridicule. I say, if your proud to be Greek, be proud. Don't allow this discrimination (for lack of a better term) keep you from representing something you are obviously dedicated to and have passion for.
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Old 10-21-2008, 04:08 PM
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I took Soc 101 my junior year and it was a predominantly freshmen class. Our teacher was young, maybe in his mid 20s, and very vocally anti-Greek. I sat with several of my sisters and we all wore letters at some point on another to class of course. He made several remarks throughout the semester about never understanding why people go Greek, Greeks only get drunk and sleep around, etc. It was disheartening in a class of 300 freshmen who may have been considering going Greek at some point. I believe he had been an undergrad at a school in the south, so I don't know if his undergrad experience or his WVU experience led him to believe this! Nevertheless, I'd be so annoyed when he made comments.
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Old 10-21-2008, 04:28 PM
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I can;t wear letters to meetings because my coach specifically asked me not to, and I'm not allowed to wear letters when we travel either, because they say that they don't want us "badly represented".
Is there a dress code for this organization at meetings? If not, why are you being restricted from wearing your letters? Last time I checked, unless something is extremely offensive, a professor or coach has little room to say anything about what you wear.

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I took Soc 101 my junior year and it was a predominantly freshmen class. Our teacher was young, maybe in his mid 20s, and very vocally anti-Greek. I sat with several of my sisters and we all wore letters at some point on another to class of course. He made several remarks throughout the semester about never understanding why people go Greek, Greeks only get drunk and sleep around, etc.
If I was in either this situation or the one of the OP, I think I would speak up. I would definitely approach the professor after class, and if the problem persisted, I would be inclined to say something during class. But either way, this would honestly make me mad.

Your professors/coaches are singling you out and making fun of you in front of your peers, and that should NEVER be the case, no matter which organization you're a part of. Imagine you're on the basketball team, and your professor says, "I don't know why anyone would join the basketball team, they all sleep around and do drugs." Would you not be just as mad? Is it still just as ridiculous as saying something negative about Greek life? Yes, it is. They're attacking your personal life choices in a situation where learning is supposed to take place.

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If you were my daughter, I would advise you to elevate your concerns to whomever the coach reports to.

Seems to me like you should be able to sit down with all parties, discuss the issue, and come to a peaceful resolution.

It seems like borderline discrimination and harassment to me.
Agreed. Like I said, this should not be happening at all, and it especially should not be brought up in meetings or in a class. How is that at all relevant to what is being taught or discussed? Talk to your coach, and talk to their supervisor if necessary.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:33 PM
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If people don't respect you than your pair of stand-ups is too long. 5" or go home.
Haha.

I just can't believe people catch shit for being greek.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:45 PM
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Haha.

I just can't believe people catch shit for being greek.
Well bless your heart, hun, I'm at school in the Northeast.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:43 PM
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I was named to Mortar Board as a senior, and was the only Greek. The President was pretty snotty to me. She had apparently an issue with the idea that some college students work, get good grades, participate in campus and community activities...and also can be Greek.

I ignored her completely.

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Old 10-21-2008, 10:44 PM
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That kind of thing is relatively unheard of at my school because all the major non-Greek organizations are usually run by Greeks. But that sucks, it just shows how ignorant so many people are.
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