PAC -10 Suspends Officials For Calls in Oklahoma Game

macallan25 · #1 09-19-2006, 12:11 AM

Easily the worst call I have ever seen in college football.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2593564

amycat412 · #2 09-19-2006, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

Easily the worst call I have ever seen in college football.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2593564

Agreed. that call was unbelievable.

Kevin · #3 09-19-2006, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

Easily the worst call I have ever seen in college football.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2593564

I can think of some calls in the OU Texas game that were just as bad

Interceptions in the n-zone ruled incomplete when the guy caught the ball while sitting on a knee in the middle of the end-zone, balls which bounced off the turf being ruled interceptions, etc.

But yeah, in recent history, and with replay, I fail to see how this could be a 'mistake' as the Pac-10 wants us to believe. I can't see how they couldn't see what was going on here. I can't see how this could possibly be anything but an intentionally biased call by the replay officials. They ought to be banned from the sport.

KSig RC · #4 09-19-2006, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

But yeah, in recent history, and with replay, I fail to see how this could be a 'mistake' as the Pac-10 wants us to believe. I can't see how they couldn't see what was going on here. I can't see how this could possibly be anything but an intentionally biased call by the replay officials. They ought to be banned from the sport.

In the words of Lee Corso, "Not so fast, my friend . . . "

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/ore...l=7&thispage=1

Kevin · #5 09-19-2006, 11:43 AM

"Equipment malfunction"? We're not talking ESPN Ocho camera angles here, we're talking ABC Prime Time. If nothing else, this should be a lesson to replay officials to look at every angle before making the call.

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It's Riese's spleen the country wants.

-- if he's offering, I'll take it.

DeltAlum · #6 09-19-2006, 12:24 PM

"This is probably a good time to remind ourselves that sports isn't war. It's not life or death. College football is supposed to be a pleasant, passionate weekend diversion, void of death threats for sure. There's just something that doesn't feel right about villifying Riese, especially after further review.

The above is right on.

For whatever reason, the replay official made a bad call, upholding a bad call.

He is agonizing about it. Let it rest.

Unfortunately, there are potential huge stakes -- mostly involving BCS appearances, big money and national recognition.

But, to coin a phrase, nobody's perfect.

If the article that KSigRC linked is true, the biggest fault may be with the Pac 10 replay process itself.

I was directing NFL football when replay was first used, and we basically played EVERY replay that was even close to showing the play. If this man really only got to see one replay -- or as the article says, one frame (that's a still frame of 1/30th of a second) -- there's a huge problem with the system.

Replays are always tense for everyone -- and they're made worse by the artificial time limit imposed because of the people waiting in the stands, the TV audience and other issues. The pressure is on everyone. However, if replay is going to be used -- it has to be done right.

In this case, it obviously wasn't. That doesn't make it the replay official's fault, though.

KSig RC · #7 09-19-2006, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

"Equipment malfunction"? We're not talking ESPN Ocho camera angles here, we're talking ABC Prime Time. If nothing else, this should be a lesson to replay officials to look at every angle before making the call.

He doesn't get access to the ABC feed (which is GOOD), nor does he have (instant) access to or control over their camera angles.

This is the whole point - he was forced to make a decision based on the amount of time, by the other referees and the ABC production team, and he totally blew it. He admits this freely, and knew at the time that something was wrong, but didn't get the angles he needed (which requires him to say "can't overturn").

macallan25 · #8 09-19-2006, 01:18 PM

Why would he not get access to the ABC feed or control over camera angles. That is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. One look at atleast 3 of the ABC camera angles would have made the call more than easy.

macallan25 · #9 09-19-2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

I can think of some calls in the OU Texas game that were just as bad

Interceptions in the n-zone ruled incomplete when the guy caught the ball while sitting on a knee in the middle of the end-zone, balls which bounced off the turf being ruled interceptions, etc.

But yeah, in recent history, and with replay, I fail to see how this could be a 'mistake' as the Pac-10 wants us to believe. I can't see how they couldn't see what was going on here. I can't see how this could possibly be anything but an intentionally biased call by the replay officials. They ought to be banned from the sport.

Are you talking about last year? Who cares.....its not like that game was gong to be close anyways. The Oregon OU call was the worst I have ever seen. For you to compare them to an OU TX game is kind of dumb.

The season stakes were much higher for OU in this game aswell.....which makes it all the more sickening.

I also hate it for us....because it is going to make it awfully difficult to decide who goes to what bowl when there are a bunch of one loss teams stuck in the Top 10. (this is assuming that we don't lose again) The liklihood that we play another Top 10 team is pretty slim to none.

The1calledTKE · #10 09-19-2006, 01:25 PM

I am surprised no one has mentioned the controversial call in the LSU/Auburn game.

macallan25 · #11 09-19-2006, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The1calledTKE

I am surprised no one has mentioned the controversial call in the LSU/Auburn game.

The tipped ball was a pretty big call......but I think the call in the Oregon OU game was far worse.

ThetaLove · #12 09-21-2006, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The1calledTKE

I am surprised no one has mentioned the controversial call in the LSU/Auburn game.

controversial CALLS. More than just one. I'm proud of the Pac-10 for at least admitting they screwed up. That's more than the SEC did. I never thought I would respect the Pac-10 more than the SEC and I do.
(sorry if that offends some)

OF COURSE there will be issues with plays in a game, sometimes it goes your way, sometimes it doesn't. That is the nature of the game. Sometimes it affects the outcome of the game, other times it doesn't. But to have numerous calls in Auburn's favor is what disgusted me.

I am not normally a fan that gets all in a huff over one bad call, but this was a disgrace.

shinerbock · #13 09-21-2006, 11:23 PM

The difference is, that the call in the Oregon-OU game was blown, while the main call in the Auburn LSU game was not. The only thing LSU can say about that play is that they should have called defensive holding, if that. The ball was deflected, it was uncatchable. If LSU had gotten a call and gone on to score, the same thing would have been coming at LSU, considering they would have won the game because of a penalty that had no impact on the actual play.