Grillz are barred at some Texas schools

Rollergirl2001 · #1 07-11-2006, 01:35 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060711/...rillz_earlobes

I believe in self expression and I like one or two gold teeth, but the grillz are nasty looking. Good move by the school board.

tunatartare · #2 07-11-2006, 01:40 PM

When I saw the title of this thread, I thought you meant barbecue grills and I got a mental image of a bunch of people sitting around in pj's at 3am grilling burgers in their dorm room.

AlphaFrog · #3 07-11-2006, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

When I saw the title of this thread, I thought you meant barbecue grills and I got a mental image of a bunch of people sitting around in pj's at 3am grilling burgers in their dorm room.

I did the same thing!!

RU OX Alum · #4 07-11-2006, 01:45 PM

I will say this....if a teacher says something to a student about it, and ends up getting a beat down, they deserve it. And I hope it happens. And I hope everyone on the school board who voted for it gets a flat tire on the way home. And not just any flat tire, one where the nail is all rusty and so it brakes off halfway through you taking it out and then you slip when you get the last nut on the spare and your knee gets all muddy even though you've been like super careful the whole time you were changing it. Yeah, that will teach them. Those jerks!

AlphaFrog · #5 07-11-2006, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

I will say this....if a teacher says something to a student about it, and ends up getting a beat down, they deserve it. And I hope it happens. And I hope everyone on the school board who voted for it gets a flat tire on the way home. And not just any flat tire, one where the nail is all rusty and so it brakes off halfway through you taking it out and then you slip when you get the last nut on the spare and your knee gets all muddy even though you've been like super careful the whole time you were changing it. Yeah, that will teach them. Those jerks!

Why?? They're distracting and I wouldn't be surprised if people get beat up/killed over them. They don't belong in a highschool.

valkyrie · #6 07-11-2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rollergirl2001

I believe in self expression and I like one or two gold teeth, but the grillz are nasty looking. Good move by the school board.

This line of "reasoning" bothers me, and I've noticed it a few times here on GC. It goes something like this:

I really don't like [whatever].
Therefore, I approve of/support/advocate for a regulation/law/policy prohibiting/outlawing/limiting [whatever].

-or-

I really think [whatever] is a great idea.
Therefore, I approve of/support/advocate for a regulation/law/policy requiring/imposing/recommending [whatever].

Examples:
-Oh, I always wear a helmet while riding my bicycle in dangerous areas and there should be a law requiring everybody to wear helmets.
-Smoking is nasty and I hate the smell! Nobody should be allowed to smoke in public.

I hope everybody recognizes that personal thoughts, opinions, and feelings on an issue are NOT a good reason for creating laws or policies. Whether you like or dislike something is irrelevant in terms of whether it should be required or prohibited by law or other policy.

shinerbock · #7 07-11-2006, 02:13 PM

I don't really think thats a good analogy. Smoking in public discomforts people with health problems, and we all know about second hand smoke. Your right to do something should not impede upon anothers. Similarly, while I hate wearing my seatbelt, its not just my safety law enforcement is concerned with. People unrestrained in a serious car accident can cause injury to others. For some reason the link didn't work for me, but I assume this grill banning is in public schools. I think its great. Its the same as saying you can't wear your pants half off your ass, or you can't wear a shirt with a rebel flag on it. I personally think "grills" are one of the stupidest trends our country has seen in a while, plus it could be distracting.

valkyrie · #8 07-11-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

I don't really think thats a good analogy. Smoking in public discomforts people with health problems, and we all know about second hand smoke. Your right to do something should not impede upon anothers. Similarly, while I hate wearing my seatbelt, its not just my safety law enforcement is concerned with. People unrestrained in a serious car accident can cause injury to others. For some reason the link didn't work for me, but I assume this grill banning is in public schools. I think its great. Its the same as saying you can't wear your pants half off your ass, or you can't wear a shirt with a rebel flag on it. I personally think "grills" are one of the stupidest trends our country has seen in a while, plus it could be distracting.

If you say smoking should be banned in public because it causes harm to the health of others, I think that is a compelling argument. I'm taking issue with people who say that they, for example, hate leaving a bar smelling like smoke therefore smoking should be banned. The end result is the same if smoking is banned, but the arguments are very different.

f8nacn · #9 07-11-2006, 02:31 PM

I agree with the ban and pray that more school districts will follow suit! They are not attractive, they are not contributing to anything but, as mentioned, distractions among young people, who instead need to concentrate on graduating and being a student. There is so much craziness in high school now from the latest trend to the issue of oral sex being a common practice among this age group (Reference: Tyra Banks Show had high school students talking about oral sex and how common it is). I just think our young people need redirection...redirection from proper parenting and positive influences...

valkyrie · #10 07-11-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by f8nacn

distractions among young people, who instead need to concentrate on graduating and being a student.

Are you saying that they are a distraction to students other than the students who have them?

AlphaFrog · #11 07-11-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

Are you saying that they are a distraction to students other than the students who have them?

Both, the one who has it because he's busy showing it off and/or playing with it in his mouth (the tongue is a nervous organ and cannot help but play with anything unfamiliar in the mouth), and the other students looking at it.

f8nacn · #12 07-11-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie

Are you saying that they are a distraction to students other than the students who have them?

Quoting a piece of the article who stated that they are a distraction...however, I can only imagine that they are a distraction to both.

Dionysus · #13 07-11-2006, 02:45 PM

What is "distracting" varies from person to person. Grillz are so common in certain areas, that I don't even notice them that much. I'm not that distracted by crazy fashions (I've seen it all), and I'm a pretty easily distracted person.

epsilon99 · #14 07-11-2006, 02:54 PM

I recently saw a sign in Atlanta that said you could buy 4 grillz and get one free.

KSig RC · #15 07-11-2006, 03:11 PM

Wait, what's 'distracting' about something you wear in your mouth?

If it's a safety issue (kids getting rolled for their grill, or appropriated by gangs, or etc.), then that's one thing - but the 'distraction' argument sounds a lot like "I think they're gross/weird/silly/stupid/too 'hip hop', so get them out of public schools."

The article mentions that the school board wants to teach the kids 'modesty' - that doesn't exactly seem like Tinker v. DMSB, and I can definitely see reasons why gauging or grills could be banned. Distracting just doesn't really cut it for me.

Also the oral sex argument above is HILARIOUS - high school kids having oral sex? Seriously? Call the f-ing news!