Michael Jackson: The Verdict

Wonderful1908 · #1 02-06-2003, 09:16 PM

I can't possibly be the first to start a thread about Michael's interview. With all you regular Greekchatter but its been on for about 15 minutes and already I am like WTH? I just don't understand, has this man not been recommended for counseling? This is gonna be a better thread than Bobby and Whitney!

Gina1201 · #2 02-06-2003, 09:36 PM

Alright maniquinns (sp?) in the hotel room?

Sex with Tatum O'Neal?

Things I never wanted to know about Mike?

I'd like to see him and Whitney have a conversation.

RedefinedDiva · #3 02-06-2003, 10:38 PM

I have a new respect for Michael. Michael is very smart and is just having a hard time with everything. Michael is almost larger than life. People are paralyzed by just seeing him. He has more money that the Federal Reserve. He grew up in the limelight. He has never had a real childhood. Imagine having all of this hoopla over YOU. I know that I have star quality

, but damn! Most people turn to drugs and break down (Cough...cough...Whitney...cough). Mike has just had a few face lifts, takes care of kids, parties like a big kid, donates to charities, yadda yadda yadda. Folks need to get off of his back.

I wanna be, I wanna be like MIKE!

Wonderful1908 · #4 02-06-2003, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
I have a new respect for Michael. Michael is very smart and is just having a hard time with everything. Michael is almost larger than life. People are paralyzed by just seeing him. He has more money that the Federal Reserve. He grew up in the limelight. He has never had a real childhood. Imagine having all of this hoopla over YOU. I know that I have star quality , but damn! Most people turn to drugs and break down (Cough...cough...Whitney...cough). Mike has just had a few face lifts, takes care of kids, parties like a big kid, donates to charities, yadda yadda yadda. Folks need to get off of his back.

I wanna be, I wanna be like MIKE!

No way, I am sorry. I feel sorry that Michael missed out on childhood, I can't even imagine. However people experience all kinds of trauma that causes childhood to be missed. Having slumber parties with thirteen year old boys, being obsessed with childhood and staying young forever is not NORMAL behavior. This man denied having plastic surgery! I can only imagine the devastating effect his abuse had on his development as an adult but somewhere he has to be responsible for his inappropriate behavior. If 44 yr old Joe the trashman was having sleep overs with 13 yr olds because his abused childhood he would be sitting behind bars. If Mike wants to be a child its his life and his money but lets clearly identify that this man is crazy!

Afrochic · #5 02-06-2003, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by Wonderful1908
If Mike wants to be a child its his life and his money but lets clearly identify that this man is crazy!

Exactly. I'm convinced he is mentally disturbed, but this is nothing new. This interview just further proved my opinions. How in the world do you grow up in the lime light and then think that I forgot how you looked years ago? Mike, you had waaaaaaaay more than 2 plastic surgeries. Did anyone check his nail beds and the contrast in color between his skin color under his nail beds and his fingers? Now I see why he keeps his fingers taped.

His fascination with children and childlike behavior is disturbing. Also his behavior with his children. And if he wants me to believe one of his daughters is by a black woman he's about as crazy as he looks. Watching his interview and his weird behavior is like seeing a bad car accident, you can't help but look. His interview got boring in the end though. It's just so much of this wierdo I can take in one evening.

Serenity · #6 02-07-2003, 12:53 AM

Not only is he crazy (ringadingadingdong), he's also a liar. Only had plastic surgery on his nose? Yeah, Riiiiiiiiiiiiight? Who is he fooling? Is he serious? Does he believe that he looks that way because he's "still changing" like during puberty? That's gotta be the CRAZY talking...

There's just so much that I want to say but, where do I begin? *sigh* Bottom line, that interview disturbed me. I'm almost sorry I watched it.

Growing up, MJ used to be THE man. Now, he just creeps me out....

9dstpm · #7 02-07-2003, 12:59 AM

I went to sleep after about 30 minutes but I had the VCR set up to tape the rest of the show. The 30 minutes that I saw was kinda creepy. Climbing trees and whatnot. His affection toward young children is very scary to me. When I woke up, I saw Primetime Live and they were showing the part where he had that boy laying up on him and Mike said that the boy's folks were all right with it! WTF?? I could not believe that. But then for the right of amount of $$ some people would be all right with anything. Not me. I guess I'll watch the rest of the interview now.

ladygreek · #8 02-07-2003, 01:19 AM

After watching the entire interview and the followup on Prime Time, I believe that Bashir did indeed slant the whole thing to his on purpose of making Michael look bad. Watching the promos for the show made it sound much worse than it was and the obvious spin at the end made me think that Michael does have the right to feel betrayed by this man he let into his life for 8 months.

Michael was obviously traumatized by his childhood, and I suspect he is on meds probably for bi-polar (which may explain the manic behavior in Berlin). The discoloration of his nail beds is indicative of someone who is ill or are meds and could be from the vitiligo. Yes, I do believe that he has the affliction and yes I'm guessing that he had skin peels (or whatever) to eliminate the spotting, especially after suffering the trauma from childhood about his acne.

I also think the whole thing about kids sleeping in the bedroom was blown out of proportion. I believe that he is asexual (he said that he did not have sex with Tatum) and did not and will not sexually assault any children. And really I couldn't care less how many facial surgeries he has had--2 or 20. If he wants to look like and be Peter Pan, that's cool too. There are worse things than wanting to be eternally young, like being eternally messed up on crack.

But IMHO, Mr. Bashir (and Barbara Walters in her commentaries) artfully edited and spun the documentary in a way that was solely for the purpose of sensationalism and discreditation.

I left the whole thing deeply concerned about Michael--concerned more of what he might do to himself when he can no longer hide the aging process. I honestly believe he may commit suicide before he turns 50.

AKA2D '91 · #9 02-07-2003, 09:47 AM

I feel sorry for him.

He is a liar. He said that the youngest child was for someone he had a relationship with. THHHHHHENNNNN, he says that the mother was a surrogate and he didn't know who she was.

I think he is bipolar, manic depressive or something. Maybe he is on drugs too. By the time he had the last interview in Miami, it seemed like he was anxious. Did you all hear how he was tapping his hands I guess on his legs?

He was about to suffocate that baby when he fed him.

He didn't even "burp" the baby. Prince and Paris' nanny is a sista. I was surprised. Didn't it seem like they didn't want to keep the camera on her?

Babara Walters made me

. It seems like she is totally against MJ. He has issues, he needs help, but dang!

The kids don't need a mother...wtf?

Did anyone see how Prince's hair is like blonde, but the roots are sandy (more dark) and kind of kinky? Those kids are going to be strange, even though he is trying to "protect" them.

I fell asleep before I could hear what the medical doctor was to say about the number of surgeries he has allegedly had.

I loved MJ, but I can admit that he needs serious help.

I see that Christina A. is next.

ABC evidently needs its ratings to improve .

toocute · #10 02-07-2003, 09:53 AM

GC Family,

I was so DISTURBED by the show last night I was near tears. He says he does not abuse his children. Not all abuse is physical.

He was allowed to take his daughter out of the hospital FRESH out of the womb...placenta covered and all. You don't DO that. Those kids were almost trampled on at that zoo and he was like "Oh as long as I got to see the baboons".

WTF. I do not let my Christopher get any where NEAR harms way.
And why in the hell was he bouncing that baby like that while he was giving him a bottle? Maybe if he moved that scarf out of the way the boy could suck the nipple. The 13 year old boy laying all over him during the interview? WTF? Were is his Momma? He has children all in his bed. A bed full of love his says. NO.

Michael is GONE. I understand he had an abusive childhood but he needs help and those children need to be snatched up and taken away while he gets help.

toocute · #11 02-07-2003, 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by AKA2D '91
I feel sorry for him.

Prince and Paris' nanny is a sista. I was surprised. Didn't it seem like they didn't want to keep the camera on her?

I noticed that.

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Did anyone see how Prince's hair is like blonde, but the roots are sandy (more dark) and kind of kinky?

My husband pointed that out to me. He was like check that kids ROOTS.

AKA2D '91 · #12 02-07-2003, 10:06 AM

If you missed it, you can read about it:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Musi...iew/index.html

The ROOTS say it all. Just ask Mariah...

Gyrl7 · #13 02-07-2003, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by ladygreek
After watching the entire interview and the followup on Prime Time, I believe that Bashir did indeed slant the whole thing to his on purpose of making Michael look bad. Watching the promos for the show made it sound much worse than it was and the obvious spin at the end made me think that Michael does have the right to feel betrayed by this man he let into his life for 8 months.

Michael was obviously traumatized by his childhood, and I suspect he is on meds probably for bi-polar (which may explain the manic behavior in Berlin). The discoloration of his nail beds is indicative of someone who is ill or are meds and could be from the vitiligo. Yes, I do believe that he has the affliction and yes I'm guessing that he had skin peels (or whatever) to eliminate the spotting, especially after suffering the trauma from childhood about his acne.

I also think the whole thing about kids sleeping in the bedroom was blown out of proportion. I believe that he is asexual (he said that he did not have sex with Tatum) and did not and will not sexually assault any children. And really I couldn't care less how many facial surgeries he has had--2 or 20. If he wants to look like and be Peter Pan, that's cool too. There are worse things than wanting to be eternally young, like being eternally messed up on crack.

But IMHO, Mr. Bashir (and Barbara Walters in her commentaries) artfully edited and spun the documentary in a way that was solely for the purpose of sensationalism and discreditation.

I left the whole thing deeply concerned about Michael--concerned more of what he might do to himself when he can no longer hide the aging process. I honestly believe he may commit suicide before he turns 50.

I agree with you and Redefined Diva. I honestly feel sorry for him. NO one knows what happened in the Jackson household but that family. I too agree that he is asexual, I mean no matter how he looks there would have still been plenty of women who would have slept with him just to have his baby... I don't agree with him having those kids in his bed like that, but I didn't like Bashir's style of interviewing and like Michael said at the end he pretty much backstabbed him in the trust department. It has to be a hard thing to go through life having had no childhood, and go through physical and mental abuse. I mean Janet had an interview with MSNBC and her last words were "one day I will hopefully be able to love myself", so all of them can't be telling the same lie. I just feel really bad for them all, because at least from what I saw in that interview last night Michael is just broken and no amount of money in the world can mend it as we can see already.

Confucius · #14 02-07-2003, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by Afrochic
Exactly. I'm convinced he is mentally disturbed, but this is nothing new. This interview just further proved my opinions. How in the world do you grow up in the lime light and then think that I forgot how you looked years ago? Mike, you had waaaaaaaay more than 2 plastic surgeries. Did anyone check his nail beds and the contrast in color between his skin color under his nail beds and his fingers? Now I see why he keeps his fingers taped.

I rarely post on Greekchat but I am always crackin' up at your posts. Anyway, when I was watching the MJ interview, I was thinking the exact same thing. Now I know why he tapes his fingers! Gross

NUPE4LIFE · #15 02-07-2003, 12:49 PM

I can still remember when I saw Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5's Victory tour at the Gator Bowl in Jacksonville, Florida. I was a young child at the time, but I can still remember vividly how in awe I was of Michael at the time. I had the glove and all. Speed it up time some 20 years later, and the Michael of today is not the Michael I admired. I have a 2 year old, and there's no way I'd let him near Michael. He said that he finds sleeping with children enchanting! WTF, Chester, Chester Child Molester! That's the sickest ish I've ever heard. Sad, Sad, Sad.