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05-25-2004, 04:53 AM
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A Message From the "Up High" Brother to Oprah
Alrighty then ... shouts out finally to a "straight" brother who not only has something to really say, but has enough sense to put some scripture with it.
Oprah need to have THIS brother on her next show!
Hallelujah! ...
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DL Brother's Response From A Straight Brother
Ladies,
From a single Black male professional, please be careful of what you hear and how you hear. Not all Brothers who dress nice, speak well and love their moms, are gay or on the DL.
I, for one, adore women ONLY, have been in a relationship with a beautiful woman for years that I am about to marry, and have
SEVERAL partners who, like me, are appalled by the latest "brother-bashing" that has hit the airwaves.
I typically like Oprah Winfrey, but I am upset that she and her producers allowed J.L. King to paint the picture that an epidemic of Brothers are on the DL and that our community is so over-sexed, that we will indulge in any type of sexual mis-behavior that brings gratification.
DAMN Oprah ... have you heard of responsible reporting? It's a shame that the biggest day time talk show host, who is watched by millions, would use her show as a pulpit for some confused brother to further embarrass our already hurting community, (Kobe Bryant, Michael Jackson, male teachers in schools, etc.).
I mean let's be real, J.L King is having sex with men, but will not admit to being gay ... that's called confusion AND denial y'all. Black men are already under constant scrutiny of being thugs, pimps, playa's, thieves, etc., so, now we are under scrutiny for
being on the "DL"? You all have Husbands, Sons, Brothers, Fathers and Nephews.
Doesn't it bother you that everytime someone in our community
wants their book to be on the best seller list, they have to implicate everyone else in the community?
And speaking specifically on J.L King, he say's that he was motivated to write this book because he didn't want his daughter to "hook up " with someone like him. So let me make sure I understand this ... you care SO much for your daughter that not only will you NOT give up your "DL" tendancies, you impregnated
your wife who conceived and could have exposed the daughter that you "care so much for" to HIV, AID's or some other sexually transmitted diseasesand then you then bring her on a nationwide, syndicated talk show to try and show that her love for you is unconditional.
HELLO???????????? Exactly what kind of parenting is that?!! Did you ever stop to think that deep down inside, she just might be shattered? And if you cared so much about our Sister's, why didn't you inform your wife about your deviant sexual behavior
and let her decide for herself if she wanted to risk being infected? Oh, but you "care so much".
I am also upset that Sister's were portrayed as being so desparate to have a man that they are willing to accept this type of unGODly misbehavior in order to have a "man" or in order to maintain the financial standard of living which she and her man have become accustomed too. No self-respecting sister that I
know would knowingly jeopardize her own life, let alone the life of her children in order to maintain the status quo. What separates and defines a Black woman is her strength of character and her state of spirit and mind, not just her sexuality. While I do appreciate the information the show provided, I was
disappointed that there was no balance to the show.
It's good to expose that there are brothers like this one who are on the "Down Low" but also, let's give praise to the Brother's on the "Up High". You know, UP on their responsibilities and HIGH on relationships with their women.
So sisters, I love you all, but please be careful of who you're being intimate with. And don't just assume that all brothers are on the DL because "Oprah said so".
P.S.
This finall message goes out to J.L, all the DL brothers of the world, and any of your friends that you know are gay or either on the DL. Since you choose to try and justify your behavior, you might want to read Leviticus 18:22, which says ... "thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is abomination".
And while you're reading, read Leviticus 20:13, which says ...
"if a man also like with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of thm have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them".
These verses probably won't change your behavior since you obviously do not know the word, but at least you'll be without excuse. When you know better ... you're supposed to do better ... now you know.
Walk comfortably and confidently in the FOG ( Favor of God )
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05-25-2004, 01:49 PM
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Thank you Bruh!!
For bringing us this response to all this overhyped DL bulls***
I for one always believed that Mr. King is trying to sell books as well as create a view that gay blackmen are rampant. I also believe that King is a very selfish and confused person he hurt his wife so bad yet he doesn't want some gay dude to hurt his daughter yet in the end he doesn't want to condemn or change his sexual deviant behavior.
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05-26-2004, 02:20 PM
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Re: Thank you Bruh!!
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Originally posted by AXEAM
For bringing us this response to all this overhyped DL bulls***
I for one always believed that Mr. King is trying to sell books as well as create a view that gay blackmen are rampant. I also believe that King is a very selfish and confused person he hurt his wife so bad yet he doesn't want some gay dude to hurt his daughter yet in the end he doesn't want to condemn or change his sexual deviant behavior.
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Do you not think gay black men on the DL are rampant? Do you think this is being blown out of proportion? In my opinion, if even one brother is living on the down low its one too many. I for one was in the dark on how serious this is, and I am so glad that Oprah did this show. I would not want to get duped into marrying a man that wanted to do/or has done other men  so bravo for those willing to speak out about it.
And for all you "UP High" brothers..ya dont have anything to worry about..jus handle ya biz
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05-26-2004, 02:23 PM
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Where does "up high" come from?
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05-26-2004, 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by AKA2D '91
Where does "up high" come from?
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LOL...I think its just a play on words..the opposite of "Down Low" ..but that's my best guess
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05-26-2004, 03:07 PM
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That went straight over my head.
Thanks!
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05-26-2004, 04:29 PM
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I believe it happens but I don't believe it's rampant I believe Mr.King is using it as a scare tactic to promote his book. If he feels so strongly about the DL he should denouce it and change his ways.
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05-27-2004, 09:40 AM
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His book arrived yesterday and I started reading it of course. I found something really interesting that he stated. He of course doesn't believe that he is gay. He stated that on Oprah, and he states in his book, but something made me think and agree that ole boy is really confused. Now a lot of people believe that men are born gay, and that there is nothing that they can do about this once they start acting on it. In J.L.'s book he said that he has always had an attraction for men, but didn't act on it, until he was turned out by his first lover. My thing is this......isn't that a statment that you hear from a lot of gay men. I'm not understanding how you can have sex with the same sex and not think that this is not a gay tendacy. I'm only up to chapter 8, but you can tell that even now he is still very confused.
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05-27-2004, 10:43 AM
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in responce to Love_Spell
Do you not think gay black men on the DL are rampant? Do you think this is being blown out of proportion?
The thing is my lovely Soror... that IT'S NOTHING NEW!!!!
The new term to sell books is DL. But from 2 years ago on back we used to call these people 'IN THE CLOSET'.
It's nothing new.
Rock Hudson - DL / In the Closet.
The Daddy on Brady Bunch - DL / In the Closet.
It's just in the closet with a fresh new ribbon and wrapping on it so that the sisters will: BUY BOOKS, WATCH TELL-LIE-VISON TALK SHOWS during sweeps week, drum up propaganda so that people like J.L. will continue to get their GUEST SPEAKING FEES, etc...
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05-27-2004, 10:55 AM
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Re: in responce to Love_Spell
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Originally posted by djjukebox
Do you not think gay black men on the DL are rampant? Do you think this is being blown out of proportion?
The thing is my lovely Soror... that IT'S NOTHING NEW!!!!
The new term to sell books is DL. But from 2 years ago on back we used to call these people 'IN THE CLOSET'.
It's nothing new.
Rock Hudson - DL / In the Closet.
The Daddy on Brady Bunch - DL / In the Closet.
It's just in the closet with a fresh new ribbon and wrapping on it so that the sisters will: BUY BOOKS, WATCH TELL-LIE-VISON TALK SHOWS during sweeps week, drum up propaganda so that people like J.L. will continue to get their GUEST SPEAKING FEES, etc...
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Bruh,
You are right...its nothing new...but the level of deception was news to me. Yea he is trying to sell books, and this story has taken on a life of its own...but I can honestly say...I had no idea this was as pervasive as it seems to be. Maybe I have fed into the propaganda too much..cause when I see a guy...the DL question is looming in the back of my mind... but isn't that a good thing??
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05-27-2004, 11:09 AM
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Re: Re: in responce to Love_Spell
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Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
Bruh,
You are right...its nothing new...but the level of deception was news to me. Yea he is trying to sell books, and this story has taken on a life of its own...but I can honestly say...I had no idea this was as pervasive as it seems to be. Maybe I have fed into the propaganda too much..cause when I see a guy...the DL question is looming in the back of my mind... but isn't that a good thing??
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I'm not part of the Down Low lifestyle so I can't confirm one way or another.
I don't think that it's as pervasive as media and books are making it seem to be. It's now in the forefront.
Before this new Atkins Diet came out. A balanced diet was the order of the day. Now people are eating hamburgers(which contain no HAM, BTW) which lettuce in the place of the buns.
My 101 year old grandmother has eaten carbs all of her life. The media frenzy surrounding it has caused people to change their eating style.
Don't let the media cause you to change your dating style. Learn to trust your intuition. Keep lines of communication open at all times. And if there is doubt in your man, discuss it with your man.
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05-27-2004, 03:39 PM
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sound advice
My advice to the sisters would be this...
Just woo, date, marry and mate THE QUES !!!!
That way, you'll never have to worry about any DL or Gayness issues.
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